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02-02-2018 03:11 AM
MattKoller
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Originally Posted by jhinderliter View Post
go ahead and run those 5 year old tires and keep shopping slip ons..

you do you, man...
I sense the sarcasm..I know I know. I've made up my mind on a full set of Bridgestone Battlax s20 hypersports or the newer s21s. No slip on lol. Power is nothing without....control of common sense
02-02-2018 02:26 AM
jhinderliter go ahead and run those 5 year old tires and keep shopping slip ons..

you do you, man...
02-01-2018 04:42 PM
MattKoller
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Originally Posted by OutsiderZX12R View Post
I have Shinko 003's (Hookup on the back) on my 12 and I have no issues at all. I want it to hook when I twist the throttle and it does. I'm also not riding my 12 like I am Jonathan Rea going after the WSBK championship.

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wow, Shinko Drag Radials on the street...i guess tires comes down to how hard i ride my 12r and i only ride the bike hard...in a straight line for now and i am not going to be riding like I am on a ZX10R. Its so hard to find a tire based on my relatively easy riding style that still is a quality tire that i wont be worried about coming apart or having inferior quality saving $50. I have A Metzeler M5 up front which i am keeping but its a 5 year old tire already. I have no idea what to run in the rear that will compliment the front tire OR is my front tire at 5 years old causing handling issues if it hasnt yet? i was looking at the Battlax Bridgestones S20 for the back which is the older version of the S21. i got about $150-$160 US dollars to spend on a rear tire
01-29-2018 12:38 PM
OutsiderZX12R
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Originally Posted by JayZX12R View Post
They are not bad, and are used in the drag strip crowd. They are not the best in knee dragging corners, but my personal believe is your knee should only be dragging on a track. Since I do not track my 12, Shinkos are what I use. I am on my second set and never lose traction even under hard acceleration.

The bad reviews you will hear, are from people who push their bike to the level where they need super sticky compounds. If you push your bike, then get the tire you need, if you ride around safely on the street only occasionally going 100+ mph, Shinkos are all you need.

I am happy, and my next set will be Shinkos again. I use the 009 Raven. I also use a 190 rear. I have heard from others who say Shinkos do not have the right tire angle for knee dragging, I never go that far to the edge of my tires.
I have Shinko 003's (Hookup on the back) on my 12 and I have no issues at all. I want it to hook when I twist the throttle and it does. I'm also not riding my 12 like I am Jonathan Rea going after the WSBK championship.

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01-29-2018 11:46 AM
dastardly I get what your saying about riding within the limits of the tyre you run, but the difference between a tyre you have no confidence in and one you completely trust is worth the dollars, I cant see myself outriding the ability or performance of any modern sport tyre I just don't push it hard enough and haven't for a year or more but I sure like the feel of a nice set of tyres on the road the grip they give the predictable slip not all grip then nothing, Im no gun rider pushing everything to the wall, another set that last very well and feel great are Michelin pilot road 4 great longevity and wet weather riding thats enough waffling for now later Guys Craig
01-29-2018 06:49 AM
JayZX12R
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Originally Posted by 2wheelObsessed View Post
I used Road Smarts long time ago on a 94 VFR. On that bike they were fantastic rubber. I feel the same about Shinko I think they are total crap. Slippery with no feel, but I do ride my 12 like it was meant to be an maybe if your just cruising around a city they work fine. Your rubber is all that’s keeping your ass off the pavement, we all have our own preferences of brand/size but overall I think tires are an absolute terrible area to go cheap. Save elsewhere an put a decent set of rubber on front and back. Your riding a ZX12R a serious machine not some 40hp CBR300. Be smart about it.
We all have differences in opinions. Just like I think that driving any harder than a Shinko is rated for on the roads is a danger to others and yourself. I can get a Porsche and run <100 mph rated tires, because I wont be going >100 mph. I don't do wheelies, I don't track it, and at most, I go 80-90 mph. A $2k set of tires will be just as effective as a $300 set of tires in these conditions, except will wear out faster, and empty my wallet faster.

I do a 1,500 mile ride every year, if I got more expensive softer compound tires, I would be replacing them annually. I got tired of that, so I looked for tires that last longer and fit my riding style, Shinko's fit the bill.

I am willing to bet, most people with 12's do not ride it hard enough to necessitate anything more than a Shinko will provide. Not saying you don't or anyone else specifically, just majority of 12 owners.
01-27-2018 02:12 PM
MattKoller
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Originally Posted by 2wheelObsessed View Post
I used Road Smarts long time ago on a 94 VFR. On that bike they were fantastic rubber. I feel the same about Shinko I think they are total crap. Slippery with no feel, but I do ride my 12 like it was meant to be an maybe if your just cruising around a city they work fine. Your rubber is all that’s keeping your ass off the pavement, we all have our own preferences of brand/size but overall I think tires are an absolute terrible area to go cheap. Save elsewhere an put a decent set of rubber on front and back. Your riding a ZX12R a serious machine not some 40hp CBR300. Be smart about it.
Im not going to cheap out on tires. Bridgestone Battlax S20 Hypersport 200-50 is what im going to run on the rear. OR it will be a Pirelli Diablo 2 or 3 200 55 or 200 50. I agree totally on the tires. Its just deciding on Brand and Compound. Summers here are HOT roads are terrible and so are other drivers. Picture riding year round in Seattle. thats my challenge. I ride VERY easy FOR NOW until im at a racetrack or a 5 am sunday morning mountain road or freeway...
01-27-2018 06:22 AM
2wheelObsessed I used Road Smarts long time ago on a 94 VFR. On that bike they were fantastic rubber. I feel the same about Shinko I think they are total crap. Slippery with no feel, but I do ride my 12 like it was meant to be an maybe if your just cruising around a city they work fine. Your rubber is all that’s keeping your ass off the pavement, we all have our own preferences of brand/size but overall I think tires are an absolute terrible area to go cheap. Save elsewhere an put a decent set of rubber on front and back. Your riding a ZX12R a serious machine not some 40hp CBR300. Be smart about it.
01-26-2018 08:20 PM
Kwdan i have a 2001 with 92,000 miles on it. i use dunlop roadsmart tires. im a casual/cruiser type of rider. im still on the factory clutch...that's how casual i take it. I do ride in the rain on purpose so i wanted a tire for great wet weather traction. i get great mileage out of a set...https://www.bikebandit.com/tires-tub...56277?m=149463
01-26-2018 01:18 PM
jhinderliter We ride em like sport bikes...

Guys had vibes , lack of feel for the road and they seem to wear faster , which makes you buy more tires sooner...

The drag bike guys run them because they just fry em off anyway and they are cheap...

I don’t buy cheap tires , it’s the only thing between me and the road ..

My .02
01-26-2018 01:11 PM
JayZX12R
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Originally Posted by jhinderliter View Post
Never have... my experience with them is watching my buddies mount them trying to save a buck and regretting it..
What kind of riding did they do? What problems did they have?

Thanks
01-26-2018 01:09 PM
jhinderliter
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Originally Posted by JayZX12R View Post
What problems did you have when you ran them?

Never have... my experience with them is watching my buddies mount them trying to save a buck and regretting it..
01-26-2018 11:03 AM
JayZX12R
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Originally Posted by MattKoller View Post
yea thats what i have been thinking all along. I had a 929RR Fireblade and that was for dragging knee and elbow over red and white parts of a track which isnt what a 12R is meant to do anyway.

do you have or heard any opinions on the rest of the shinko line up? I am mostly worried about center tire wear being a drag racer. anyways, I was looking at pure value which is why i almost bought the 009 but you say it has a not so round profile. theres the 010 the 012 verge 005 Shinko etc etc they are all available in the 200 50 or 55 series which i might do because of the prices are so low less than 110 bucks.
But i found a Bridgestone Battlax S20 Hypersport 200/50 for a $140 off Amazon which I assume will help my bike not be so heavy in the front. Its sluggish and the nose feels very heavy. bike doesnt want to lean over at all. I am assuming the Bridgestone will be nice and happy with my Metzeler M5 front tire and wont make the bike feel stranger than it is, hence why i feel like i should go for a Pirelli Diablo or the Bridgestone.

anyways thanks again for the first real response on Shinkos. Only thing is why did you go with the Raven for the back and not another shinko model like the 010, 005 and what tire you runnin up front if you dont mind me asking all this shyte. Oh and why the 190 rear and not a 200-55 rear like I am trying to find..I assume it helps these killer whale bikes turn?

thanks man
I try to run matching sets of tires, I am running the same up front. 190 because I don't really need a 200, there are more available, and also most of my local dealers (I buy them at my local Kawi shop) do not stock 200's as most bikes come with 190s or smaller.

I would have to pay a fee to have outside tires installed, so it works out to more (I guess I could have them order a 200 for me).

I did notice when I dropped from the 200 to a 190 it was easier to turn, but to be honest the 200 was my first tire on this bike, so it could be the wear that was making it hard to turn.
01-26-2018 10:57 AM
MattKoller
wow. question tho

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Originally Posted by JayZX12R View Post
They are not bad, and are used in the drag strip crowd. They are not the best in knee dragging corners, but my personal believe is your knee should only be dragging on a track. Since I do not track my 12, Shinkos are what I use. I am on my second set and never lose traction even under hard acceleration.

The bad reviews you will hear, are from people who push their bike to the level where they need super sticky compounds. If you push your bike, then get the tire you need, if you ride around safely on the street only occasionally going 100+ mph, Shinkos are all you need.

I am happy, and my next set will be Shinkos again. I use the 009 Raven. I also use a 190 rear. I have heard from others who say Shinkos do not have the right tire angle for knee dragging, I never go that far to the edge of my tires.
yea thats what i have been thinking all along. I had a 929RR Fireblade and that was for dragging knee and elbow over red and white parts of a track which isnt what a 12R is meant to do anyway.

do you have or heard any opinions on the rest of the shinko line up? I am mostly worried about center tire wear being a drag racer. anyways, I was looking at pure value which is why i almost bought the 009 but you say it has a not so round profile. theres the 010 the 012 verge 005 Shinko etc etc they are all available in the 200 50 or 55 series which i might do because of the prices are so low less than 110 bucks.
But i found a Bridgestone Battlax S20 Hypersport 200/50 for a $140 off Amazon which I assume will help my bike not be so heavy in the front. Its sluggish and the nose feels very heavy. bike doesnt want to lean over at all. I am assuming the Bridgestone will be nice and happy with my Metzeler M5 front tire and wont make the bike feel stranger than it is, hence why i feel like i should go for a Pirelli Diablo or the Bridgestone. OR IM just a dumbass who cant setup his bike correctly.....

anyways thanks again for the first real response on Shinkos. Only thing is why did you go with the Raven for the back and not another shinko model like the 010, 005 and what tire you runnin up front if you dont mind me asking all this shyte. Oh and why the 190 rear and not a 200-55 rear like I am trying to find..I assume it helps these big ass bikes turn?

thanks man
01-26-2018 10:38 AM
JayZX12R
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Originally Posted by jhinderliter View Post
Wouldn’t run em on my lawnmower ...
What problems did you have when you ran them?
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