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She would have been better off on the 250.

That being said the 500 can't have the forks slid through the triple tree like on most sportbikes because of the type of handlebars that they come with. You need a true style "clipon" that clips AROUND the fork, not clamp to the top of the triple tree. Be careful when installing aftermarket clipons because you will have some potential bodywork clearance issue Lock to Lock.

You can have the forks internally lowered (pricier) or get aftermarket clipons and slide the forks on up through the triple.

Stick with 1-2" drop....too low and it really handles like crap and you run the risk of damaging lower parts of the bike over speedbumps, potholes, etc.

Good luck.

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the 500 can't have the forks slid through the triple tree like on most sportbikes because of the type of handlebars that they come with. You need a true style "clipon" that clips AROUND the fork, not clamp to the top of the triple tree.

Stick with 1-2" drop....too low and it really handles like crap and you run the risk of damaging lower parts of the bike over speedbumps, potholes, etc.

Good luck.

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You'll have to excuse my ignorance here, I love riding... but when it comes to the mechanics of motorcycles I am still learning. Now I understand what you mean here, for the most part. I can clearly see that the handle bars on my 500r do sit on top of the triple tree (never knew they were called this :lol:) as apposed to my zx12r that clips around the forks.

Where I am a tad confused is, if I lower the rear of the bike with the lowering links, from my understanding, I need to lower the front of the bike as well... will simple lowering the front handlebars (which, again totally just assuming, is what you are suggesting) will that do the trick for me? or do I still need to actually lower the front of the bike?

I've also looked into getting the seat shaved down so the bike wont have to be lowered as much, I was told I can get it lowered up to an inch without major loss to comfort.

I really appreciate the help man, I'm trying to keep this whole lowering process as cheap and simple as possible.
 

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When you lower just the rear, that affects the steering geometry. It will change the rake of the front end quite a bit.

On some bikes you can actually slide the forks upward because they have holes through the top triple tree (cover where your ignition is attached). On the EX500 there are no holes that allow you to do this.

Lowering the handlebars is not the same thing. What you are trying to do is keep the front and rear ride height in the same ballpark. If you lower the rear 1", you would need the lower the front end about 1", and so on.
 

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When you lower just the rear, that affects the steering geometry. It will change the rake of the front end quite a bit.

On some bikes you can actually slide the forks upward because they have holes through the top triple tree (cover where your ignition is attached). On the EX500 there are no holes that allow you to do this.

Lowering the handlebars is not the same thing. What you are trying to do is keep the front and rear ride height in the same ballpark. If you lower the rear 1", you would need the lower the front end about 1", and so on.
Ah, I see... so even if I were to get after market 'clipon' handlebars and lower them along with the lowering links of the rear, I would still need to lower the actual front end to keep everything flowing evenly...

So much learning going on for me... :lol:
 

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Ah, I see... so even if I were to get after market 'clipon' handlebars and lower them along with the lowering links of the rear, I would still need to lower the actual front end to keep everything flowing evenly...

So much learning going on for me... :lol:
You still seem a little confused. If you add an aftermarket clipon, that is a TRUE clipon, meaning it CLIPS ON the fork, not like the stock style 250/500 bars that bolt on TOP of the TRIPLE TREE then having the fork "slid up" through the triple tree will lower the bike. Where you bolt the clipons themselves is up to you but you have limited options because of interference issues with the OEM fairings when you turn the handlbars all the way left and right. Sliding them up through the triple tree alters the ride height, not where/how the clipons are bolted to the forks although lowered clipons give a more aggressive feel.

Another way to lower the front of the bike is to internally lower the forks. Its more expensive but if you have lots of miles and/or leaking fork seals it would be good justification to go into the forks and have them INTERNALLY lowered. By internally lowering them you don't have to worry about getting aftermarket clipons that allow you to slide the forks up through the triple tree to lower them.....because they are INTERNALLY lowered already. The down side is that to put it back to stock height if/when you want to will require more time/money because you have to go back into the forks.

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You still seem a little confused. If you add an aftermarket clipon, that is a TRUE clipon, meaning it CLIPS ON the fork, not like the stock style 250/500 bars that bolt on TOP of the TRIPLE TREE then having the fork "slid up" through the triple tree will lower the bike. Where you bolt the clipons themselves is up to you but you have limited options because of interference issues with the OEM fairings when you turn the handlbars all the way left and right. Sliding them up through the triple tree alters the ride height, not where/how the clipons are bolted to the forks although lowered clipons give a more aggressive feel.

Another way to lower the front of the bike is to internally lower the forks. Its more expensive but if you have lots of miles and/or leaking fork seals it would be good justification to go into the forks and have them INTERNALLY lowered. By internally lowering them you don't have to worry about getting aftermarket clipons that allow you to slide the forks up through the triple tree to lower them.....because they are INTERNALLY lowered already. The down side is that to put it back to stock height if/when you want to will require more time/money because you have to go back into the forks.

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What if I just release some air pressure from the front tire? .... wont that help bring the front end down?.....

:rotflmao: ... kidding... I'm not THAT stupid haha

I see what you're saying... the bike does have about 15,000 miles on it. (I ride all year round) so, maybe the safest thing to do would be just to have them lowered internally. Having the clip-ons does seem like a more sensible idea tho.

Again thanks for the help, eventually i'll be as knowledgeable as some of you veterans... if we were talking cars I'd be fine. haha
 

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Well, just got another call about a 2011 red honda cbr 250 and a 2011 kawasaki 250... gonna race up there tomorrow and hope for the best!
 

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So, got to see the bike... 2011 Honda CBR 250 red... I sat on it... felt kinda dinky, especially compared to the 12... hell even compared to my old 500... and honestly, I thought it was kind of uncomfortable. But its not for me... so the little lady sat on it.

She loved how it looked. Loved how it felt... but didn't like the fact that even on her tip-toes she could barely touch the ground... so immediately the shop talks about lowering and this and that...

So... while it is a nice bike, I think we're going with the 500r... (yes I kno I’ve said that a few times, but this isn't my decision... and you kno how women are! :lol:) I already have the lowering links, I'm ordering parts to lower the front and its all in all a good bike... plus it was my first, I wouldn't mind holding on to it for whatever reason I can think of haha
 

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Cool. Just give her plenty of time practicing in the parking lot; don't rush to get out on the road in traffic. :thumbup:
 

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Well I'm sending her through the DMV safety course again... we took it together (my second time) with my brother back in June. But that was her first time on a bike and hasn't had much riding time, so I'd feel better if she went through it. (Plus she didn't go the last day... blah blah long story... haha) But I'll make sure she's well prepared! Thanks! :thumbup:
 

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Can I just say that I also took the MSF course through Harley Davidson and it has helped me a lot. There is not one thing that it taught me that I haven't used on the road yet. Especially quick stops when dumba$$ drivers slam on their brakes in front of you. I ride a 2011 250 and it has plenty of speed and enough power for passing cars on the highway but allows me to do it in a safer way because leaning is a lot easier. Plus i don't really care for the looks of the 500's but that's just me.
 

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I totally agree with you about the course, I highly recommend it to everyone.... and I agree about the 500... sure is hell ain't a pretty bike, but they do sell aftermarket fairings that help a lil haha
 

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Kawasaki don't market the 500r down here so I just googled it. Farkin crack me up, it's a bloody old GPZ!! :rotflmao: They're still selling them?

In New Zealand the learner licence laws stipulate nothing bigger than 250cc for learners. The resale value of 250's is ridiculous as a result with people paying as much for a mid 90's Japanese 250cc IL4 as a mid-2000's 600-1000cc IL4 sports bike. The gubbermint is changing the regs soon to relate to power output, making the currently learner-legal Aprilia RS250 possibly no longer so.

As for your missus, go with the bike that makes her the most comfortable and bugger the financial cost - it'll be worth it in the end.
 
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