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REAR WHEEL BRAKE HP: 147.6 @ 10.5k



DYNO:

Factory Pro EC997a eddy current dynamometer (outside, in open trailer)



BIKE:

Vehicle: '00 ZX12

Exhaust: TRB Slip-on

Gearing: stock

Air box: stock

Air Filter: stock

Ignition: stock

FI: stock

Fuel: pump



CONDITIONS:

Temp: 78F

Bar: 30.22

H20: 62

SAE Correction: 0.9852

Eng. Tachometer Ratio: 2.4290



DATA:

RPM: 5985,6985,8009,8947,10017,10468,10926

MPH: 95,109,125,140,156,163,171

HP: 83.1,101.7,123.9, 134.3,147.4,147.6,146.2

ft/lbs: 72.9,76.4,81.2,78.9,77.3,74.1,70.3



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Just for shits, I hooked up a PC3r with base map and discovered a loss of 7.5HP. Guy said the fact that bike is a 32bit processor and the PC3 is a 16bit processor makes a difference. The bike's timing information can't be read fast enough to process properly (or somthing like that), so it's difficult to get any more power into my stock bike using the base map unless he spends many hours figuring out the discrepancy. Could this be the case? I would conclude that on a stock or flange-on bike, a PC3r with base map for is shit, so don't use it or you'll lose 7.5 HP.



He did show me results for a full Muzzy with PC3r, and downloaded map from DynoJet that had significant gains. Then, he was able to add 5.5 HP up top after tweeking that DynoJet map.



My next step is to decide on a full system, Muzzy or Akropovich, and toss that fricken stock exhaust with flange in the trash.









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If you want loud get Muzzy, if you want to try and not get too much louder than stock and want a smooth idle and potentially a smoother power curve get Akrapovic. The best price for the Akra is through Doug at spencercycle.com

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Something is wrong with that. I got 158.8 bone stock and

163.7 with TBR can, and PC3R with the D&D slip-on map.<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)">

This was on a nearly new mobile dyno on a hot summer night

(outside in an open trailer). You hooked up your PC3R and got

140 hp? What is the base map on a PC3R, and why was it not

the TBR map? I realize it's not a dynojet dyno, but damn that's

low.

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I only pulled 152 totally stock........

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Wow,I hope MY stocker runs better than that. Sounds kinda low? My buddy's R1,with micron,is right about there.

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By base map I mean the the PC3r the way it came out of the box (Map 010 I think.)



This map gave me 7 HP less than not having a PC3r at all. So I unplugged it.



147HP was what my stock bike and TBR pipe gave me. TBR says that re-mapping (ie using a PC3 at all) is not recommended. It is recommended with a full system as I have heard from you guys (some) about full systems without remapping and it running like shit down low.



As far as a Dynojet vs a FactoryPro dyno, I have heard the diff is as much as 20% over 100HP. I have no idea if this is true but if it were only 10% lower, my Dynojet reading would be something like 161hp with the slip on.



Does anyone have conversions, or can explain the diff between DJ and FP?









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Not recommended? That's crazy. More like not necessary.

I realize that the can run's OK without it, but it run's better

with it. Trust me.<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"> They now have a European map for the

Two Brother's can. When I first got mine D&D was the only

map availible and it was still better than stock. Maybe not

much in the HP range, but smoother all around.

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Yeah, there's many variables in dynoing.I was'nt knocking your bike,12's rule.

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is it men in this forum with a complet hindle with pc3 an stock air filter have a dyno result for me ?



i'll have this systeme in a few day !!! :))

i'll give you my result soon behind and after !

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I think King has a Hindle. Not sure what he dynos without the giggle gas......

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and go back to that same dyno.



After about 3000 more miles (and a few good tweaks) <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> ...& it'll be making more. (a lot more) <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/eek.gif ALT=":eek">

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Richard and King, did you guy's run on a dynojet 250 dyno? Was

everyone in 4th gear? When I got 158.8 I thought I was missing a

few. I guess not.

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I remember my 2000mile, bone-stock 00' 12R dynoed 162.5HP/92ftlbs on a DJ 1 year/13,000miles ago...going back in the next couple of weeks (I hope) to get custom map...this time w/full oval muzzy,K&N,PCR3,block-offs,17t/48t...the shop said the last 12R they dynoed got 180+HPs...heck, the stock 162 I got is more than I could ever handle in this lifetime...I just want it to run 'right' on the street...getting 180 would just be a pleasant bonus for me <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)">

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mine made 159.7 box stock, added a hindle and k-n's, no pc3, and it made just shy of 169. stumble at 2500 rpm, and obvious idle hunt, but fast as hell.

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"DYNO:

Factory Pro EC997a eddy current dynamometer (outside, in open trailer"



Not to worry - that particular dyno will give you "low" numbers like that. You'd probably get right around 140-143 horses on that dyno with a bone-stock 12R. Interesting to note that your peak horsepower moved up to 10,500 rpm with the addition of the flange-on muffler. Without the flange-on your peak horsepower would have been around 9,500-9,700 rpm. Just goes to show how much Kawasaki restricted the U.S. and Canadian models with the mufflers we got from the factory!! <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)">





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