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Have noticed since I bought my 2001 Phantom Silver ZX12R that, with all that power available everywhere all the time that I sometime gets jerked around pretty good unless I really pay attention to what I am doing with the throttle.



For example, adjusting the Throttlemeister can be daunting at speed.



In traffic in town it's tough to go slow. Turning the power on and off is a real challenge if I want to do it smoothly.



Just got my 600 miels and will take in for first service soon, does this tendency to jerk when either turning on or turning off the power deminish with mileage ? I notice they have made a throttle modification in the 02, is it for the reasons I given ?



Sometimes I just want to go slow......and it's tuff

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I keep's rpm's above 4000 on exit of turn's. If it drop's below you will get jerky response on exit's of turn's.

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Kawasaki changed the throttle pull on the '02. It is more of an oval or cam shaped rather than round. The effect, they say, is to make it smoother and easier to manipulate the throttle. Less jerky. I haven't ridden the earlier models but my '02 isn't too bad. It still wouldn't give it full throttle in a turn though.

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If you have a Power Commander you can load Cliff's On/Off throttle

response map onto it. I'm not useing it, but many people are and

like it.

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Just got back from the scooter shop to compare the 01 and 02 throttle cam. There is a huge difference on the aft lobe of the o2. The 01 cam is completely round e.g. the on is the same as the off distance.



But on the 02 the on (forward) lobe is still circular but the aft (off) lobe is about 2/3's as long and tilted a bit.



I'm having a hard time thinking this one out as to whether it will take that sensitivity and reduce it some. Guess the only way to find out is to buy an 02......What are the winning lotto numbers ??

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If the '02 throttle cam bolts up I'm buying one for my '00. I would think it would improve the on/off control on all 12s.

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Hope your're right, cause I'm gonna do the same thing

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It is my understanding that the 02s also have been mappped differently to address this situation. I believe the PC3R and the right mapping is probably the best solution for this. I'm experiencing the same thing and I'm quite disappointed with it. I'm hoping the PC3R will eliminate most if not all of it.



Does anyone know if the 02 throttle pulley fits the 00-01 models??? I would think they are interchangable. It would certainly be a nice if KHI thought about us early model owners when they were refining the current model!?!?

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Power commander, what is that. I've been reading stuff about more electronic control of all this power on the ZX12R and thought they yellow box thingy was it. But this power commander sounds like a better way to deal with this huge amount of power, and very tight movements of the wrist for the riders. Can you tell me where I can get more information please?

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Once my boy put his map in my pc it made it 100 times better.2000

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Here's the real deal...do like I do - keep it WFO all the time! This way there is no on/off jerky throttle bull shit!



Only one problem with this method - you have to hold on really tight! Oh, and people look at you a little funny riding around town....oh, and buy the way - the cops...they aren't amused by it at all!

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If they are interchangeable I will buy one. If it is just the cam I wouldn't think it would effect the throttle position sensor.



Dave: the powercommander is from Dynojet and is an inline fuel and timing remap device that will allow you to modify the stock maps. Go to www.zx-12r.org >> performance >> fuel timing mods and read up.

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Black Mandingo Warrior Dude, please let me know if you do go through with the PC3R purchase and mapping AND the 02 throttle cam swapout......I'm almost to a decent touring scoot and that would be the last step to taking some long trips.....pls email me at [email protected] and

Thankx mate



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I've heard that perhaps Muzzy's is working on an aftermarket oval pulley for the earlier model 12's cause Kaw has one but to get it I heard you have to buy the whole throttle assembly<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes">

As for the PCIII/R, some extra fuel down low should do the trick for the on/off throttle.

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I agree with Wardawg, keep it above 4000rpm and no trauma's. I believe it's the price u pay for fuel injection. A set of Mikuni Smooth Bores. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!

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I don't think the pulley is going to help. Kawasaki added 5 lbs to the flywheel and moved weight out on the flywheel to cure this problem. Triing to tame the beast. So just step the pulley down one, pipe and PC3. It will be fine. I remember stalling mine several times when it was new in traffic.



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