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PM sent...Redsled is in pieces now. It will take the winter to get it right,but whens its done it will be right and tight. Im selling or trading my vmax. The 12r I am looking at needs alot of love so that build if I get it will be some special. I would leave your 12r the way it is just like I doing to my 14r. What cha want for the 12r Shane. Redsled.