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Just decided that NOS just ain't for me. I`m not saying that I will never get it but at the moment I just don't feel I`m qualified about the subject to run it. I was going to get it installed this summer but what happened to Fearsome K has just really put the wind up me. If my engine blew then the expense would just be too great and I would probably be off the road for quite some time. I know King is a really great guy and I have exchanged many E-MAILS with him but I just don't feel knowledgeable about the subject. To some people this sort of thing is easy to understand but with me its like a nightmare. I will probably go with the Muzzy 1270 kit later this year. It`s expensive but the power is always there unlike NOS where you are limited to where and how often you can use it. To all the guys on the board who are getting NOS, good luck and be safe.



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I'm the first to admit I'm NOS illiterate... But I have talked to two knowledgeable mechanics both with at least 15 years experence and been in shops since I started riding and they said a small shot won't hurt it. Key word small shot (20 or 30 horse) is what I'm after. I am also afraid to go big.... But I am willing to explore a little and learn new things that is why I come here........ Love working on bikes so what the heck...



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It's not for me, either. Never even considered doing it. Would be almost worthless to have - would have to come home every 10 minutes and do something about the empty bottles! Would also cost me a fortune filling the bottles!!

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I'm not sure I understand your last sentence, King. I have nothing bad to say about using Nitrous Oxide and I don't have any problem with you. [Just for the record!!]



I know I'd enjoy the extra horsepower I'd get using Nitrous Oxide - I'd enjoy it enough I'd use it pretty much ALL the time! I wouldn't be away from my house very long and those bottles would be empty. How much did you say you've spent filling the bottles on your bikes??



It just makes more sense (to me - and for "my kind" of riding) to get my extra horsepower via bigger pistons, longer stroke, higher compression, etc.... Heck, I'd even prefer a turbo over Nitrous Oxide. Bottom line --- I want the horsepower to be there EVERY time I open the throttle - not just when I've got "juice" in the bottles!! <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)">

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Theres more to fun then blasting down a quarter mile strip with NOS. I use my 12 for continental touring, track days, every day riding etc,. I get a real buss from these especially at track days. Learning to handle a 12 on a race circuit takes a lot of skill and guts. How many track days have you done?. Are you saying all these are safer options then riding with NOS. Try riding through the center of London on a busy week day (now thats dangerous).



Each to there own buddy.



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Missle no problem at all and no offence taken, if you check my page you will see I also do alot of track days that's why I prefer nos for the quarter mile. You will never run a turbo bike on a road race course and the 1270 kit is too much also I've been on a bike since about 3 years old, not saying that any better than anyone else but the 12 is enough bike with a pipe and a gear change for anyone. Turbo is big bucks and you can only ride what you can control, if you live somewhere with wide open straights then turbo may be the way to go. I read the last sentance kinda was a run on all I meant was have fun amd be safe.

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I've had nos before, it is the cheapest hp i know of. in knowledgable hands, it is a formidable weapon. In crazy jive turkey's hands, it is an engine builder's friend. If you go for too much and your engine is not PROPERLY prepared, you will surely scatter your poor engine all over the street in little oily pieces, faster than you can say REDLINE!!!!! BE CAREFUL........

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To each there own, Fearsome's mechanic actually caused the problem from what I read so far but that's beyond my control. I have not pushed this on anyone so it doesn't bother me if no one wants it just an option to consider. Actually this is a good comment for thoses who don't want to have fun and be safe about says it all later dudes.

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I agree with King!!! NOS is a bolt on option!! (It's there if you want it) Your need for it will depend on your riding habits!!!!



When you start looking for more HP....it's a give and take!!!!!



*If you just like to hit the curves hard and very little drag racing - NOS is not for you.



*If you like to Really drag the Knee and run mid to low nine's at the strip - NOS is for you!!!! (but remember a VERY LITTLE SHOT)



*If the knee draggin is fun but not taken as serious as the drag racing / top speed - Then start building the engine.



It's all about what you like and what YOU want to get out of YOUR bike!!!! I am going with a 1270 kit and a little while after that NOS!!!! I like to hit the curves but Speed is my Flavor. I also can't afford to blow the engine and I do ride it everyday as well - so I will not go bigger than 1270 and I am waiting to see how the ZX12 motor responds to NOS - Long term!!!!



It's all about you!!!!





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I like NOS.I think it's a good set-up for the 12.I'm not a track guy.I'm basically a street rider that likes wheelies, slingshots and the twisties.I don't mind the high speed stuff(had the 12 flat out in 6th and held it there for a bit)but I'd rather be tearin up a back road.

I run a smaller sprocket on the front , not for better 1/4 mile times but for ease of front wheel lift in second gear.So nos is perfect for me cause I'm happy with the fun I have on the bike without the use of nos.



BUT,all nos does is make your engine think that it is larger.Plain and simple.So ,IMO,the best upgrade for more power is increased displacement.The best bang for the buck, on the other hand ,is nos.The trouble is the big bore stuff that is available for the 12 only gives you about 210hp to the wheel and you still need spray to keep up with a 12 that has just spray alone.Crazy game.Now I think the best thing for a 12 is a big bore on the juice,that is ,until there is something better.

What I'm trying to say is that I have big bore thinking with a nos pocket book. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D">

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me thinks you could of paid for a big bore turbo on nos with the amount u have spent on juice alone <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol">

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do what it takes to have fun ride safe and never ever lose to a busa!!

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Just for the record I have heard a couple times now king for all the money you spent on nos you could have got something else turbo whatever. Remember guys I DON'T pay for my nitrous stuff it is all sponsored I just put down numbers so you can see how reliable this kit is by how much I have used. I use it all the time because it is free, I would be a little more conservative if I had to pay. Maybe not heehee.

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I'm seriesly considering NOS. I enjoy my bike just as it is but I would like more speed with quicker acceleration at times. I don't race on a track and the 1/4 mile is not for me. I live between 60mph and 200mph. NOS would give the edge on those few times when I come across someone else who is just as top-speed happy as I am. It might be expensive to fill the bottle but my riding habits figure it would be less expensive than a turbo, Complete after market exhaust system & PCIIIR, or a bore kit of any kind. A dry NOS system with a small shot should not hurt the ZX12R in the least. I'm looking forward to it this summer as soon as I finish a few other mods first.

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No not me! The stock 12 is fast enough for me. The last thing I need is something to launch my old ass into something hard!

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Look at it this way the stock 12 is enough to screw you up for life maybe kill ya. NOS just makes sure you do it right..... Hard stuff suxxxxxx. Hit a horse trailer one time on a snowmobile. It didn't move.... No helmet of course thus explaining wanting NOS.<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol">

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Yes Folks I have changed my Mind. After only a few weeks of me telling every one that NOS was not for me i have gone and bought the Schnitz dry system for $359 all in. Why? Guess I`m just a sucker for those horses. I spoke to Ryan earlier and he answred all my questions and spoke to me in layman terms and not gobbledegook. It`s not a big hit I`m after and his biggest jet size in this kit is 40 bhp. Thats plenty for me. I will start with the smallest jet and just increase the size with experience and confidence.



Well King can you forgive me. I hope so.



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All this talk, now I need to find time/money to fit a King kit on my bike now.



King: Can you update me on the final price of your kit and whether it is the single stage, progressive shot etc.



Also, how much does it cost to fill up the 2lb bottle in Canada? Particularly I would like to know where in Vancouver I can get NOS and how much. N102SR would know.



How long will a 2lbs bottle last in seconds with your 30-40HP kit King? I am thinking not in terms of 1/4 mile runs but in terms of top speed runs.



Also, what would be the best configuration to make a 200mph run with NOS. I would hate to have a backfire when slowing down from a 200mph run due to a unforseen backoff.



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350 US is still the price for the kit only. It is 1200 bucks to do it at a shop labour, dyno time and fill the bottle. Still cheap if you look into motor work hope this clears it up.



Nitrous is about 5 bucks a pound. You should get about 60 seconds of use from the 028 jet check with richard and see how he is doing with his or slopoke now there are two on the board with it so they can help answer questions.

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