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Assuming the bike weighed 520 and rick was 180-the following results:

Found at this site. www.corral.net/tech/brakehp.html



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Initial Readings

READING OUTPUT UNITS





WEIGHT 700 pounds

TRAP SPEED 149 mph

E/T 9.52 seconds



Dyno Readings-



READING OUTPUT UNITS

Total Horsepower 184 bhp

Horsepower Used 160 bhp

Best E/T 9.08 seconds

Fuel Readings



READING OUTPUT UNITS

Specific Fuel Consumption 92.36 pounds/hour

Fuel Pump Capacity 55.42 liters/hour

Optimal Fuel Pump Capacity 66.50 liters/hour

Injector Flow Rate 13.28 lb/hr Injectors

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Ricky / bike weight down to 680 lbs.



Initial Readings

READING OUTPUT UNITS

WEIGHT 680 pounds

TRAP SPEED 149 mph

E/T 9.52 seconds



Dyno Readings:



READING OUTPUT UNITS

Total Horsepower 179 bhp

Horsepower Used 155 bhp

Best E/T 9.08 seconds

Fuel Readings



READING OUTPUT UNITS

Specific Fuel Consumption 89.72 pounds/hour

Fuel Pump Capacity 53.83 liters/hour

Optimal Fuel Pump Capacity 64.60 liters/hour

Injector Flow Rate 12.90 lb/hr Injectors



Remember that the Fuel readings are for an 8 cylinder and Not a 4. So Double the Injector flow rate.

Things that make you go hhhhmmmmm.



Does anyone know the actual track elevation of G-ville? What was the weather conditions that day?







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with stock suspension, arm, 18/44 gearing, Muzzy, and pc3r at sea level. Ask Easy how "slow" this bike is!



Initial Readings



READING OUTPUT UNITS

WEIGHT 754 pounds

TRAP SPEED 143.1 mph

E/T 10.31 seconds



Dyno Readings



READING OUTPUT UNITS

Total Horsepower 176 bhp

Horsepower Used 135 bhp

Best E/T 9.45 seconds



Fuel Readings



READING OUTPUT UNITS

Specific Fuel Consumption 88.13 pounds/hour

Fuel Pump Capacity 52.88 liters/hour

Optimal Fuel Pump Capacity 63.45 liters/hour

Injector Flow Rate 12.67 lb/hr Injectors





Are you seeing a pattern!!!



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Help me ObeeWan, the force is not strong with me. I am sure most people see the pattern, but whether it is too early in the morning or my hanging on flu virus is effecting what brain matter I have left, I seem to be missing something. I won't be offended if you state the obvious.



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I have to question the Dyno runs...It's all corrected Horse Power,Speed,Times,Air,Barometric pressure @ sea level...



It's not real world times!!! It also changes for each time and speed you list in the boxes!!!



Sure...I dont know nothing compared to the professionals and mathamatics!!!



But, what I do know is that I did the Dyno DragRacing and my quarter mile times and speed were times that I would never ever see in the REAL WORLD!!! [email protected] the hell am I going to accomplish that 1/4 mile time at a real track???





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not going to see those times until the bike can handle screwing all that hp to the ground from start to finish.

The whole point of this was to show that the "stock" pre-production bike has/had alot of balls! The bike has as much or more power than a Zx-12r with a Pipe and all the mods. Again, I do not know what the combined weight of Ricky and the Zx-12r was and therefore lives a window of error in calculation.

Yes the headwind on my pass was a facture in a couple of mph. But still this just puts me in the ball park.



I still believe that the ecu of that particular Zx-12r is very, very special.



HAs anyone every tried looping some of those extra "Memory inputs" that are available in the ECU. (opps, let the cat out of the bag maybe)

Part#1073 ecu is for France, and maybe other 106 hp countries. The Jumper #64 goes to ground through Jumper#60.

Jumper#64, #56, #55 are all "Input Signal for Memory"

As are Jumper#15 & #16.



This is serious territory and I am amazed no one has looked at this yet.



I Tried grounding the #64 long time ago, and it did make the bike run better. But this would have to be only tried with a stock pipe. IF you try it with a pipe, it may cause top end leanout. IMHO



Easy..what do you think?

Does anyone know what the other ports would be for?

One could be for flashing the unit its self!





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That information is useless. I entered MY data and came up with these results 205# rider weight 525 bike weight w/fuel as measured at the track during the event. My bike actually dynoed 167 RWHP. So this 195bhp number doesnt mean much.



WEIGHT 730 pounds

TRAP SPEED 149.66 mph

E/T 9.59 seconds



Dyno Readings

READING OUTPUT UNITS

Total Horsepower 195 bhp

Horsepower Used 163 bhp

Best E/T 9.04 seconds

Fuel Readings



READING OUTPUT UNITS

Specific Fuel Consumption 97.60 pounds/hour

Fuel Pump Capacity 58.56 liters/hour

Optimal Fuel Pump Capacity 70.27 liters/hour

Injector Flow Rate 14.03 lb/hr Injectors



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will count for a little bit, and I still think the numbers you get on the dyno are just a tool at best and only in the ball park.

In any event, like the dyno, one has to look at all the variables and take them into account.



This years moto, I will go 200 mph, I will go 200 mph, I will go 200 mph.



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I have the Monster Scoop, so I may go 200mph before ya <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol">



Just let me know when you want to try so I can be there.

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I am confused what Pre-production bike are we talking about?



Surely my friends 2002 12R was no Pre-Pro.



Rickey Gadson

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I think they are referring to the bike you were riding around on before the ZX-12R was released to the public. You had some initial 1/4mile times that were leaked out to the public I believe. I think people are assuming that 12 was a pre-production model.

More information on that would be great. There is a lot of mystery around the rumoured 200mph+ ZX-12R before production and then France/etc. started complaining and the final version came out at a similar speed as the Busa in the 194mph range. Even though we all know the ZX-12R with a pipe kicks the Busa off the track and in the corners makes the Busa look like a tank. The ZX-12r is an awesome bike but there is still a feeling that the initial design was meant to have even more top end.

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I wonder if a "pre-production" bike is just a balanced, hand built stocker. we all know that not all stock bikes make the same power, and some are even prone to more mechanical issues, under the same amount of wear and tear.

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