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For those of you not living in Virginia, and who have thought about the installation of a radar dectector onto your 12, let me enlighten you.

I recently installed my Passport 8500 with an M-stand ($54.95) and a radar screamer ($99.95) onto my bike. The screamer is a piezoelectric speaker with 108-112 decible alert which plugs into your Valentine 1 or Passport 8500. The thing works. It can easily be heard at speeds in excess of 125 mph. It also has a 3 position switch for the sound...off, low, high.. so you can turn it down when next to the "man".

The detector is hard wired to the 12 volt battery ($19.95). This was the hardest part of the install.

The M-stand mounts to the mirror stay via one bolt and is piece of machined artwork. The detector mounts atop via velco, however, I have stainless steel clamped it to the stand to prevent easy theft during those in store jaunts.

All in all the setup is quite nice and is recommended for those who just can drive 55 or 65 mph.

Hopefully the links below will work....(first time posting links for me)

Install pics are here (these are not my install pics) www.motorcycleradar.com/install2a.htm

Information ont the screamer is here www.motorcycleradar.com/radar_screamer.htm

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Most Police radar in use today is instant on, meaning that no signal is emitted unless the cop is tracking/targeting a vehicle. If yours is the first that is tracked while within the range of the radar detector, once it goes off it's too late as you have already been locked on. I'm talikng about Doppler radar, not laser, which requires a decent reflection from the target vehicle, i.e., a reflectorized front license plate, for a good signal.

Scott W.

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Saint you are correct, but some guys just leave it on all the time... If your hit with Lazer your screwed...

The best place to blast is on an open straight with good visibility, most Troopers wont be there...Watch for the curves and openings on the Highways...


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A couple things from my observations....

1. If the cop if using lazer, your're pretty much toast anyway if your the targeted vehicle. Lazers beam is so small the chance of a detector picking it up from scatter as it is aimed on someone else is minimal. The only positive, is few police are using radar. Lazer in use, means you get a ticket if your speeding and your the target. No doubt about it.

2. Never be the lead dog on the roadway if you want to travel at higher speeds and not get tickets. Use the other vehicles as cover. It is the speeding fool who blasts down the open highway with no other vehicle cover. If the cop is using radar in the area and other vehicles are around, you are relying on the fact that there is a decent amount of reflection and scatter from radar to set off your dectector.

3. If your the only vehicle on the highway and the cop decides to shoot you with "instant on", your done, your toast, you get the reason for a ticket...I agree. See number 1. above.

However, it is truly a shame the the police can use radar units without "visual confirmation" to my speeding before triggering the radar unit. If the police HAD TO perfrom "visual confirmation" of a solo vehicle on the highway prior to using the radar, generally speaking the cop and the vehicle would be close enough in distance for the speeder to visually see the cop and slow down. In a court of law, the ability for the officier to prove his ability to visual speed is quite questionable IMO. (Let's not have that discussion here).

Bottom line.....radar dectectors are simply tools. If you dont know to how properly use a tool, the result you obtain will be poor. The is an art to speeding, especially on a bike. This I can attest to. As in 24 years of street fast riding I have only received 2 tickets on a bike...first one way trying to beat a snowstorm down through Big Thompson Canyon in Colorado (the snow was my concern, not any possible ticket) and the second was due to a frosted over speedometer and "stickler" officier (also in Colorado). Hmmmm....both in Colorado and none elsewhere. That's why I now live in PA.

Radar dectectors wont guarantee you anything. However, I would much rather travel with one, especially with one which I can actually hear when it goes off, than travel without.

Besides, you being a cop, gives you an unfair advantage...right Officier Scott.


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I said "Besides, you being a cop, gives you an unfair advantage...right Officier Scott."

Should have said.... Besides, you being a cop, gives you an unfair advantage if you are stopped...right Officier Scott.

Cheers!

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I was watching the Discovery Channel a few weeks ago. They had a show called Speed Trap (I think?) or something like that. It was all about radar, laser detectors and the worst places (Florida) for speedtraps etc.

They were doing a test on a device that a fellow had that he said would defeat the police laser. They had a police officer there with a laser gun and a engineer to varify the report. Well, the device DID defeat the laser gun. The car was invisible to the laser device. They done the test twice and both times... no reading on the laser. The police officer wasn't too happy because he was sure there wasn't anything that could defeat the laser. The fellow with the anti-laser device sure had a big smile.

The people who make the radar/laser guns buys the devices and learn how to defeat them. The people who make the detectors and defeaters buy the radar/laser guns and learn how to defeat them!.... so on and on.

It was a interesting show.

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My radar detector has saved me many dollars on the ZX12R. It is THE first mod anyone should do to their bikes. I can't imagine not having one. Instead of a mounting bracket, behind the middle light makes a great place to mount the detector and it is discreet as well.

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Yep, for the most part it's true. Depends on what I'm doing and where I'm doing it.

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