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All things being equal - there are some things I would like to do to the bike (stuff I'd like to purchase for it).

However, it's not a perfect world and I'm getting to the point where I wonder if it's worth it to put anymore money into the thing...

The '00's and '01's are quickly loosing resale value (as do all sport bikes - but the 12's seem to be loosing it quicker). The '00's and '01's didn't fare to well in the bike mags/rags and I believe that makes matters worse.

The '03's will be coming out soon and that will effectively make the '01 a two year old bike, even though I bought it new only a year ago. So in a year or two it will be an old has been...

I still love the bike though...

Taking the above into consideration... it sort of takes the motivation out of buying new toys/stuff for the bike....

There are times I think I should sell it next year and get a new one, or perhaps the year after......

Anybody else think the same thing at times?



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The way I see it all bikes including "Hardleys" take a pretty good hit the first few years, then seem to level off. Most aftermarket stuff is more valuable sold separately then with the bike. A clean stock bike with an extended warranty is probably going to be the best "value" overall. Its all about marketing you have to get the word out to the right perspective buyers. As long as Kawak is offering the attractive financing with low or no down it will hinder the sale of our bikes.

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Man, you are looking at this all wrong.

You know and I know you don't by a bike as an investment. They are expensive, high performance toys. And they depreciate as fast as your 401k fell last year.

You bought the bike because you like it, and it is in a very elite group when it comes to Big Dawg bikes. That hasn't changed, and never will. You can't change history.

If you like the bike, spend some money on it, enjoy it, and take care of it.

Remember, "it's not having what you want, but wanting what you have".

You're gonna be real disappointed if you dump that 12 off for a wholesale price, buy a new bike, and realize that it is no better, and perhaps not as fast as what you had.

Just my .02 worth.

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TBBT...I have owned more then just a few bikes. Keep the one that makes your heart beat accelerate everytime you crank it up.

I have a friend that has over 100,000 miles on a ZX11 & the bike has been ran HARD but maintained. He won't give it up!

I can't imagine ever giving up my 02 ZX12R. For what??? More HP??? My rear tire breaks away now in the first 3 gears!

Keep that bike! The difference is barely measurable.

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That's what I use winter's for. To find the love for the machine again. Through time, one losses the passion for a machine, do the simple little mods to make it fresh again. The jap market moves so fast, you'll never keep up. You finally get to the point where they are not worth selling, so you keep it, and buy another. If I could only have the money spent on bikes over the years.

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As a former cars saleman... You WILL lose on anything you buy NEW.. I only buy bikes new but not a car...you take a hit from hell on a bike....like someone already said the first 3 or so years you take a hit but after that it levels off... So keep it ... all the big bikes are so close in performance that the rider makes the difference... So hone your skills and bust the nuts off the next big thing a squid will buy and try to run you OLD 12....

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I have a 2000, and I don't see any reason to trade her or sell her. I understand yours is a 2001, but I wouldn't give it a though until you see that a new bike has somthing more to offer other than being newer. Enjoy your 01.

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I have a 01 also and Ive also had it for a year and Iam not buying another new bike until it has 30 more horsepower than this one. That was my rule before I finally gave up my ZX11 which I owned for 8 years. Its much cheaper this way. Fix your bike up the way you want and have fun. You should get those other thoughts out of your mind at this point.


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Well I never considered the bike an investment. I was well aware that the bike was going to loose value quickly upon leaving the dealers lot. They always do.

I just wonder at times whether I should continue blowing money on the thing... I keep saying "That's it I'm done - I'm satisfied now with the mods/additions that I've made. From now on I'm just going to ride it and be happy." That last for about a week and then I find I'm buying something else for the bike...

Maybe there is a AA type org for this kind of thing that I should attend...

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You should see how much used car's dropped this year. There's too many used car's, The lease's are being returned and with the creative loan's being offered on new car's, The market has bottomed out on used car's. Good time to buy a 1-2 year old low mile car,

TBBT your bike look's and run's better than a new one with the mod's you have done. And you don't see that many ripped graphic bike's.

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I try to look at my bikes and other toys like the payments are rent. last month i payed x amount to ride this bike. I have been trying kind of half heartedly to sell my ZRX1100. I figure if I don't sell it then I will just have to keep it, and once it gets closer to being paid off, I usually find they are worth more to me to keep it then to sell it. I buy new bikes, and new cars only. I want to be the one to break them in, and then you know what has or hasn't been done to the vehicle. I have had some very bad experiences with used vehicles in the past. So I will take the hit.
Keep your 12 and be happy. When it approaches say 50K miles, then you can bring this up again.

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I treat riding bikes as entertainment. Unless you keep them for 25 years and keep them stock, you'll probably always lose money. In fact, after you factor in all the money it took to maintained them, you probably still will lose money. I love my 12, but, it something comes out I like much better, I'll get it, even if it means financing the hell out of it.

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TBBT, ride the tires off of that SOB!!!

What the hell else can you buy that's any faster or has more character than your 12?

Personally, my 12 is going nowhere. I may get another bike, but if so it will be an addition, not a replacement!

My 11 year old son asks me weekly if I'll leave the 12 to him in my will!!! <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol">

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