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Hi guys/gal, I am looking for the softest, stickiest STREET tires I can find.



Crotch and LHample and I were discussing this tonight, but I'd like to get everyones opinions before I buy.



Basically, I am NOT concerned with mileage, more importantly I am concerned with the sticky factor.



Thanks, Blitz.

"You must be fast, 'cause I was haulin' ass when I passed you."</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub56.ezboard.com/bkawasakizx12r.showLocalUserPublicProfile?login=blitzkrieg>blitzkrieg</A> at: 2/17/02 4:13:04 pm
 
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Whatever (insert brand of tire here) you go with...get a "Race" flavor & you'll be glad. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)">





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I went with the Dunlop 207RR. The "RR" stands for "Race Replica". They are new for 2002. They are composed of a race compound in a street profile with a similar tread pattern to the 208GP rubber. I just put another 400 miles on them yesterday and since the first 50 miles they have shown excellent bite. Far superior to OEM 207s. I also dropped down to a 190 rear. Turns a little quicker now.



One word of caution, if you chose a true race tire for the street you might want to consider a damper. Because of the steep geometry of the rubber you will have a smaller contact patch while the bike is traveling in a straight line and is thus likely to generate a little head-shake. Benefits are bigger contact patch while cranked over and adhesion to road surface.



Just my .02 from the research I did prior to my purchase.

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Rennsports, get a 180/55 for the back (soft) and get a super soft for the front. You'll be amazed at the turn in due to the taller rear profile and the larger contact patch will be amazing. Don't worry about putting a 180 on the 6" rim, it's commonly mounted that way.

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Blitz... In my opinion the Michelins are the BEST...I say try the Pilot Race H2s then!!! I think i'm going to get them,there's alot of contact patch!!! They look like a slick with just some water channels, so they can call it a DOT tire!!!





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Will attempt to get as many sets as possible. This year Street/Strip racing is going to ROCK with the new pilots! <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)">

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Hey all, one thing to consider when thinking race tires is how many heat cycles they are designed for! I refuse to sell my used race tires to anyone on the street or use them myself. They are made for one heat cycle only, not repeated cycles of hot and cold. The other thing to remember is they will not offer as much grip in heavy rain, and will take more work to bring them up to operating temperatures. I don't want to seem like a safety nazi but to use Race compound tires on the street is foolhardy at best IMHO. ** Not referring to the the new Dunlop 207RR**

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For sure Sleepr, I should clarify the softest, stickiest STREET tires.

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Thanks Silver. Personal endorsement or more of an FYI?



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I know it's hard to convice people to try a smaller tire for better traction but the 180 Rennsport is absolutely the best DOT rated race tire for street use<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> I only get about 800 miles on a set when I put them on the 12. Beware, you will be scraping body parts in the corners with confidence... They are simply awesome<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)">

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I've been using "used" race tires the street for....(8 years or about 100 rears). & not going back.



Have had great success with 99%

& they will always be considered a staple part of this "slow-(green)12's" tire diet.

I honestly like (prefer) them over any\all street compound tire(s). & Would be very very upset if the supply of "Fresh Pilot Pulloffs" were not available.

But it's true I'm not like most, really love the "twisties" <- (ran the spell check & got "titties" hahaha) & drag race a lot. (& many of the "pull offs" still have the "tits" in the center)

& like to get my Money$ worth. (Half the cost of a new Tire, <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> )



Most of my riding\racing wears the center out long before the sides. (No chicken strips, but not to the side wear limiter either) So I'll be getting a few more sets of the X-tra sticky flavor, for that "slow12". <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)">





"Be Humble, a lot was accomplished before you were ever born"</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub56.ezboard.com/ulhampel.showPublicProfile?language=EN>lhampel</A> at: 2/17/02 10:21:37 pm
 

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Are you guy's checking the height of these tire's. And if so what are they height's? This will effect gearing. A taller tire is like gearing up. And weight transfer. Your centerline of bike.

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How fast did ya say that would go?

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Lhampel, I just wanted to point out some pitfalls that some might not realise about race tires, I will likely use some of my R6 castoffs this summer on the 12 for trying out on the dragstrip, but for the day to day riding in the city and for all the highway touring I do, race tires just don't seem like my best option. That being said my race tires are usually hatched, the course where we race is very abusive to tires and they tend to be a little done by the time I take em off!

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Yeah I hear ya. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)">

Race Tires + lots of Interstate/highway use are not a good combo.

The use of extreme caution is also highly recommended when using Race compound tires, if/when it rains.

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Your riders that are using 180/55,.......Any noticible difference in ride height? Does the bike sit slightly lower? Bogus Dave

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