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How do folks that tour on a ZX12R (no center stand) lube that pesky chain. How many miles of cruising wet or dry should one risk before re-lubing.



Does anyone know of a device you might carry in a tank bag that would permit lifting of the rear wheel on the side of the road? Or, do ZX12R owners all have AAA memberships ? Love

my new ZX12R, but using it for touring. Heli bars, double bubble and Trottlemeister help, but there's no solution that I have run across for that chain.



Any suggestions from those of you who tour on a ZX12R-A2

Dave Port St Lucie, Florida



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...try a 'quick-stand'...its a self-contained 3-piece aluminum tube that connects to each other...it comes with its own carrying pouch about the size of an eyeglass case...you'll need to purchase and mount swingarm spools...you strap the front brake lever with the supplied strap...the stand is looped and attached to the right side spool...you lift up the back of the bike slightly by standing on the rightside of the bike and lifting and tilting (gently!) towards the the bike's sidestand...then you tap the the quick-stand a little towards the bike with your foot...the bike's rear end will then be raised and supported by the the quick-stand and the bike's stand...to lower is self evident...a very nifty device....it's one of those "why didn't we think of it" cool tools...I can't remember the website but I got occassionally see the ads in the back of magazines...

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I use a piece of steel tubing with a forked hook in both ends. The hooks are the ones used to hold garden tools. I place a bolt in the spool hole and tilt the bike while taking up the 'slack' by pushing the bottom of the stand with my foot up against the bolt. Works great and due to the hooks being plastic coated they dont slip. It also fits under the seat and cost about $2.00.



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Dave,

There are plenty of ways to sort out lubing the chain. There are several automatic chain oilers that do it as you move!

The most popular and best one is called the "Scott Oiler" It works when the engine is started and the Vacuum causes the oil to flow from a reservoir onto the chain via a small pipe!

The other way if you want to use a spray/aerosol can is to spray along the bottom chain run ob the inside, standing on the left side of the bike (same side as chain) pull the bike against the side stand (towards you) and lift the rear wheel slightly off the ground and turn the wheel to the next bit of chain to be lubed! (Get a friend to watch in case it goes awry the first time you do it) Beats the ass out of wheeling the bike 25 yards along the road! (particularly if luggage is fitted)!

I lube my chain every second petrol stop in the dry and every petrol stop in the wet. Additionally, if wet as soon as I get home I lube the chain before I leave the bike in the garage. Hope this helps. (The best chain lube on the market is "Cal Guard")

Regards

Ted



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I like Bozzy's idea...it's the same idea but waaaaaayyyy cheaper...if you're not too concerned about ultra-compactness, that's the way to go...I'd still get the spools, cut a V-notch on one end of a short length of 1/2 dia. pipe (or weld a flat plate V-notch to it), and capture the spool in the V...ensure you have a strap (or something) to squeeze the front brake lever, though, to keep the bike from creeping forward and do it on level, hard ground...



That being said, the reason I like the $50 set-up I brought (probably costs less than $15 in materials oh but what the hell) is that once collapsed, its very light, tidy, and fits inside the rightside hollow space between the rear sub-frame and the tail piece right behind the main seat (I also stuff a tire repair kit and a small no-drip plastic bottle of gear lube for the chain in there)...I removed the two front seat bolts and instead inserted 3/16" hitch-pins in its place...the seat doesn't go anywhere with the rear seat locked in place (and my fat ass on it) and makes it a super quickand tool-less front seat removal procedure...



If I can get my buddy to digi-photo my set up, I'll post it.





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Use chain wax. This prevent's debri and water comming in to o-ring. Wax last's longer. These o-ring's seal the chain from what i have seen.



And another option would be to stop at bike shop. I'm sure most would allow you the use of a stand.



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Thanks for the quickstand, I'll do a search to find the website.

Dave........

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The lube to use is the 64 dollar question. I've seen about 4 different approaches. From the 90 weight gear oil, to Bel Ray, to PJ1 Blue Lable, to Maxim chain wax. Quickstand or the

gardening tool idea. Expect with some practice this 62 year

old could just use the side stand and left bar.



Now I have to decide on the product. Will try some wax, and

some Bel Ray, and carry some 90 weight and see which works

best for my rides.



Really appreciate all these responses, great ideas to have in

the quiver.

Dave

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I'd be curious to hear more about the frequency of lubing the chain. I put 20,000 miles on the original chain and sprockets of my ZX-11 (mostly easy touring type miles) and never had any problems. My frequency was about once every 500 miles, but sometimes I'd stretch it a lot further. In my opinion, lubing the chain every fuel stop is overkill, but I'd like to hear from others on this subject.

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you can find those kwik stands at aerostich.com then go to riderwharehouse and look under tire toolsi t is either on the 2nd or 3rd page..wish i could send you a link but dont know how...hope this helps you out...reddawg<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/embarassed.gif ALT=":eek:">

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There is only one answer...

Buy a Scottoiler.

I have one on my A-2 and it's brilliant.

This is the second Bike I've had with one fitted and I wouldn't ever consider not fitting one now.

Correctly adjusted, you get a perfectly wet / lubed chain and no fling off on your wheel or tyre.

If it rains or your tearing up the dessert you can just increase the flow, and for touring you'll get an average of 200 miles before you need to top-up the resevoir.

Cans of chain-lube, what's that then....

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im not going to be a great deal of help at the moment but when i find the pic i will send it to dale to post

ive just seen a plate about 4 inches sq you ride your bike on to it .it has ball baering's in it thay turn an allow you to lube chain....look's well made an will fit under seat

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