I think MC Express has or will have a kit for the 12 very soon. It should be pretty good from what I hear. I think 300 hp on pump gas is the word. IMO, all that power is only good for the track if the bike is streched and has bars. Other than that, it would be hard to use on a street bike. And REALLY hard to justify the 7k pricetag unless you race for a living.
7K! Ouch! Here is what I was thinking.... King put about $400 in hardware for a nitro kit and has 255 hp. He said he has OVER $5,000 of nitro throught the system. The cost to keep running that system is just going to keep going up!
Put on a $3,000-$4,000 Turbo kit, running about 4-6 lbs of boost. You would not need to do any engine mods(pistons etc) and you would get about 200-220 hp. The cost would be a one time shot.
What do you guys think? Mr Turbo, or someone like that would have to step up to the plate and design a kit. They already have street kits for other bikes in this price range.
If you wanted to go crazy for the track, put some 7-1 pistons in there with 12 lbs of boost and nitro! 400+ HP at least!
Muzzy's is working on a turbo for the 12 which should be released pretty soon. It will have different injectors, ecu, etc. It's basically a whole new bike in a box<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT="">
According to our silver books the ZX12 also has forged piston. I would think that would be a huge plus for NOS. I feel much safer about trying it now. Thats probably why he has had long life with his motors...
the mcxpress turbo kit is already finished. At this time they are ordered as needed. A thicker head gasket is used to drop compression. It is intercooled and has a seperate fuel injection computer for the 4 additional injectors included with the kit. Nice thing is when your off boost the drivability is still the same becuase the stock injection is still there. Price of the kit is 5700.00 and about a 1.5 month turnaround at this time.
it makes about 300hp on high octane pump gas....same as the busa.
I think the fact is that there still is no turbo for the 12r points to a reliability issue. anybody can fab a kit that will fit the bike, but to make it reliable and cost effective is another challenge altogether. I have no doubt it can and probably has been done, but at what cost? not too many people will pay 8k-10k on a turbo kit, plus taxes, plus installation, just to ride on the street. I think the big bore or stroker is a great alternative, at a realistic price.
Ummm, unless you are SERIOUS about drag racing or running Bonneville, why would you want a turbo for the 12? Is 200mph just not fast enough for you? My family has owned an auto parts store for nearly 30 years now and has sponsored many Nascar and IHRA dragsters, anytime you put that kind of pressure on an engine you are doing damage to the internals even when beefed up. You will need to constantly tune and tear the engine down and replace worn parts. If that's why you got a 12 go for it. I'm sure MCexpress, Mr. Turbo or Muzzy's would be glad to take your money. Just keeping it real...
I think you are going to find that very few have the budget to do the turbo kit, along with anything more than 250 hp you are looking at a better crank, pistons, and electronics to support it.
For the guys who will do it and afford it, it is my opinion that they will be one of three uses, dragbike, dyno shootout bike or top speed bike. My thought on this is that I have nitrous on my three 12s and I can't really use it alot on the street, here and there where a straight stretch appears other than that not likely. I have been riding since I was 4 years old and have a good knowledge and skill on bikes, not a superbike champion but I ride with some of them.
To make a low boost kit would also be very pricey and I think personally that more would do the big bore kit of some sort.
For the guys above the border don't forget the exchange rate add 40% to your prices and then try to find someone up here to do it right. In most cases this technology is still relatively new for bikes at this level, even though they have been around for years on smaller bikes if you have a problem you could be in for a surprise on a rebuild.
Now I'm not picking on any of the turbo manufactures so I hope no one takes offence to it, I have a supercharged camero and I have a few buddies with turbo cars and we can tell you about extra money on things you didn't expect. Same as nitrous or big bores it is dependent on user knowledge of the product and the nature of most to push the limits.
With this in mind I think the turbo technology is here and on the move but you can only ride what you can control and your expertise allows, so remember be safe and have fun.