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What oil filter do you use?

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#1 ·
Just wondered if there were any better choices for oil filters than OEM? What do you all use, and why'd you choose that one?

Thanks,

ZX12eR

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#28 ·
I bit the bullet and ordered from Scotts. $110. However I got my damper from Cyclemall.net at a big savings. Don't know if they have the filters yet. Call and ask for Gene and tell him I gave you his name. He's a good guy to work with and will do the legwork for you and pull some strings if need be.

The filter is the real deal. You won't be sorry. First time you change your oil you'll see what I mean.

"I'm the guy your Suzuki dealer warned you about!"</p>
 
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#29 ·
I don't know about this Scotts filter. Their info says that the mesh size is 35 microns. For reference, a Fram filter has a 98%, single pass rating for particles 10-20 microns. I also read somewhere else that half of the particles in your oil are under 10 microns. 35 seems kinda big. Logic says that you can only put so much surface area (pleats) in the space the oil filter consumes. In order to flow more, you need a bigger screen.

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#31 ·
I don't know about the Fram data being 95% or the 20 micron rating. My family owns an auto parts store and Fram is just your basic filter. I can get any filter I choose and I chose the Scotts. I ran it by some of the racing geeks my dad sponsors and a couple of them liked it, 1 is using another type of stainless filter in his race car. Also if you look at the Amsoil site (much higher grade than Fram) it rates Fram at the bottom around 91% filtration. Paper filters are very inconsistent just by the nature of their filter media. If the Scott's were lesser grade than the paper they would never survive on the motorcross circuit either and that's their biggest draw. Again, just my .02

"I'm the guy your Suzuki dealer warned you about!"</p>
 
#32 ·
Ya know, the more I look into the Scotts filter, the more I like it.



I think after I use up the 3 1070's I bought, I may buy a Scotts. I think the 12 is the bike that's gonna break my "buy a new one (bike) every 2 years" syndrome. I like the bike so much, that I really can't see trading it in a year from now....Oh yeah, thats what I said about my 98 zx11.



Ahhh shit. Well, lets just say that the '02 12 isn't enough to make me even remotely think about trading my '00 in, we'll see what '03 brings....



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#34 ·
Think I'll talk to the guys at Scotts today as well. I find it curious that the other manufacturer's claim great filtration but then they use phrases like "single pass" and "first pass". Well that's great but the oil goes through more than once. Definitely worth some investigating.

"I'm the guy your Suzuki dealer warned you about!"</p>
 
#35 ·
I had my brother (works for my Dad) call from the shop and speak with the Bendix (Fram) rep and I spoke with the Scotts rep. Got the scoop onthe filters once and for all and here it is:

The paper/glass media is at best inconsistent. Some sections of filter may siphon as low as 9 microns while others areas of same filter may go as high as 300 microns. One OEM filter (Honda) tested at over 300 microns in certain areas of the filter material. Like I said (check previous post) paper filter media is at best inconsistent and varies with temp, oil viscosity, etc. The ss screen filters "absolute" 35 microns uniformly and is unaffected by heat exceeding 600 degrees Fahrenheit. It is higher flow and thereby reduces oil pump resistance which in turns offers up an additional hp or two. Scotts has shown this on a dyno. Nascar teams all use ss screen as do NHRA dragster/funny cars, drag boats...you know engines that put out around 3000 hp and propel the vehicles to 300+mph quarter mile speeds.

I extended an invitation to each rep to reply on this thread so we'll see who shows up and puts their money where their mouth is.

Okay, I did my good deed for the day.

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#38 ·
There is also another filter called a "MAGNOM" is screws where your standard filter fits onto the engine, then you screw the filter onto the Magnom. It is basically a magnet that attracts the very fine particles without interrupting the oil flow. You remove it every oil change and clean it and refit, then fit on a new standard filter. They cost about £50.00 I think I will go for that as extra security. I'll let you know how it does.

Regards

Ted

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#39 ·
There are several other ss oil filters out there but none that I know of for motorcycles. The Scotts alsohas a magnet in it to catch those little metal shvings, etc. Hope I never see any on mine. Also the guys at Scotts were cool enough to fax me a press release from the maker of the screen material and under the Magnus-Moss ruling (1982) a manufacturer cannot insist on a specific brand of filter for warranty purposes unless they provide you THAT filter free of charge. If the dealer tries that one, just ask to see it in writing, and then ask for you filter. Won't happen!

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#41 ·
In response to many of the questions regarding the Scott's

Performance stainless oil filters now offered for the various

models of road bikes: we have found that the 304 stainless

screen type filter does offer better overall filtration than paper type filters.

Paper filter manufacturers may claim that their filters

will catch particles of 10 microns. This is true, but what they

may not tell you is that the same filter may also pass a

particle of up to 300 microns. Of the filters tested, we found

the smallest particles passed ranged from 9 to 20 microns

and the largest were from 56-300. This making the average

size of particles filtered by paper filters much larger than

that of the stainless screen type at 35 microns absolute. Absolute means that all portions of the screen filter the same.

Our filters have a neodymium magnet in the top of the

filter to catch large particles before they reach the screens

surface.

With paper filters, you take them off the bike and throw

them in the trash. Our filter allows you to inspect for abnormal particles during cleaning. This may catch an engine problem before expensive damage does occur.

Due to the large volume of e-mails we receive we may not always be able to reply promptly. We are more than happy to answer your questions over the phone at any time.

Our phone number is 800-869-1160 or 818-248-6747. Daily business hours 10am to 7pm Pacific Time M-f and 10am to 4pm Saturdays.















































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#42 ·
You just made a believer out of me. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)">



Reusable, inspectable, 35 micron screen...Increadible!



How about a zx-12r group discount? Maybe on an order of 10 filters for...say...$650~750?



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#47 ·
ha, ha you guys are funny.<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"> i still have everything stock for the bike, just in case. but when it comes to oil filters and such, i am not aware of anything after-market that provides the same level of protection. no amount of hp is worth messin' with that.

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#48 ·
You actually are taking a bigger chance by installing a PC than aftermarket oil filter. You can tear an engine up a lot quicker by changing a/f mixture and playning with timing incorrectly.



Slopoke-we're just gonna have to call you "paper or plastic" because you are definitel a "stock boy!"

"I'm the guy your Suzuki dealer warned you about!"</p>
 
#49 ·
stock boy <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"> i`m going to buy a scotts filter for sure now.



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#50 ·
Hi Everyone...



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