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IndianRider said:
oh ..

i dint know that the '02 - '03 fairing support framework is different that the 00-01 .. :shock:

is the fairing support framework more of a Y design ( allowing more bar rise) compared to the H design on the 00-01 ? :?:
02/03 has the fairing stay as part of the instrument bracket, whereas, the 00/01's have a seperate fairing stay located on the frame going up to the mirror brackets.
 

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strika said:
IndianRider said:
oh ..

i dint know that the '02 - '03 fairing support framework is different that the 00-01 .. :shock:

is the fairing support framework more of a Y design ( allowing more bar rise) compared to the H design on the 00-01 ? :?:
02/03 has the fairing stay as part of the instrument bracket, whereas, the 00/01's have a seperate fairing stay located on the frame going up to the mirror brackets.

strika,

so that means there is nothing limiting the convertibars rise on the 02-03 fairing support design .. maybe u can get a rise of 3 inches and pull back about 2 inches for a decent riding position on 500-600 mile days ..

got pics of the 02-03 fairing support/dash area ? .. if the 02-03 fairing support can be used on the 00-01 then convertibars seem to be a good option .. :shock:



Carey Ohl,

Did u install your convertibars ..what the highest you could go without interference .. i know ur leaving on ur extended trip today so have fun and please dont forget for your review on the convertibars .. :D
 

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this is what i have i don't know who makes them but you can put them how ever you want and the H bar is not in the way


 

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do u know if your fork tubes are raised to adapt those clip on's ?

the stock tubes are flush with the triple clamp..
 

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Indianrider asked

"Did u install your convertibars ..what the highest you could go without interference .. i know ur leaving on ur extended trip today so have fun and please dont forget for your review on the convertibars" ..

I got the Spiegler superbiker bar kit. They came the day after I left for NC/TN, so I haven't had a chance to mount them. This was the reply I got from Spiegler last year when I asked about how high they go.

" I'm sorry to say that I don't really have any great pictures or templates available from LSL regarding the amount of modification required. (we're lucking to get the instructions in English half of the time!)

The kit does come with the LSL superbike bars, so you would be correct in using those dimensions to mock up fairing trimming.

The best way to tell how much cutting is going to be required is to assume 45 mm rise (approx. 1.75") on the handlebar clamps where the bars mount up, plus 70 mm ( 2.75 ") for handlebar rise, measured approximately 380 mm (~15") from the center of the triple clamp at either full left or full right lock (which will simulate the width of the bars), and measure back from that point 150 mm (~ 5.5") to simulate pull back. That will put you in approximately the location where your bar ends would hit the fairing, which should be the tallest part of the conversion kit."



I made a mock-up use a block of wood and a cut up handle from a hockey stick. I assembled it at the same height, angle and sweep as Speigler claimed. It doesn't look like it will take too much trimming. I probably won't be able to pick up the bars at the post office until this weekend, but after they're on, I'll post some pictures.
 

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jragates said:
i lowered my triple down my forks and put those on top its 2"or so ..my fork were flush with the triple

raised the fork tubes by 2" :shock: :shock: wow ..

even a 2mm change in front suspension height changes the geometry of the bike .. so dont u feel the front end being way toooo sensitive after a 2" drop in the height .. ?
 

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carey owl ..

hope it work out for you and please update us with ur project ..

me thinks it would be very hard to make the zx-9r into a long distance mile cruncher with comfort .. might be asking too much .. maybe its time for a zzr1200 or even the Concours which should get the job done ...
 

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i lowered the back a little (took out the spacer on top of the rear shock)it rides great my feet hit on hard corners where they would not have before but no biggie..also does not wheelie in 2nd very good or 3rd at all any more..
 

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cool .. ive always wants to make my own..just dont have any metal working skills or the equipment .. need to find someone to work with ot make a riser .. i dont think its rocket science ..
 

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i was going to make some just to do it, i work in a machine shop i just bought some heli bars for my zx12 $210 for about $20 worth of stuff.i have a welder and a powdercoat guy that will hook me up after hours, so i might make a few over the winter if anyone has a special request..
 

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Indianrider,

I have the bars installed, but still have to trim the fairing. My brother stopped by last weekend while I was installing and gave me a hand. Taking our time, it took a few beers and about four hours so far. I'm guessing a few more hours to remount and trim the fairing. According to the instructions, I only need to trimabout an 1 1/2" off the lower edge behind the mirror.

I think it is possible to make the ZX9 into a long distance tourer. My other street bike is a Yamaha FJ 1200, and I like my 9 setup better. I've altered the seat and lowered the pegs to make it work for me.

I've ridden the FZ1, Triumph ST, Triumph RS, and Yamaha FJR and keep comparing them to the ZX9. The closeset bike to what I want is the ST. It may be more comfortable than a stock ZX9, but it's 70-80 pounds heavier and not nearly as quick. I think it's cheaper to alter the ergos of the 9 than pump up the ST :lol:
 

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carey owl .. post some pics after ur done with the speigler kit .. once u get the speigler triple clamp on, i guess u could try different types of handlebars and trim the fairing as required for an upright sitting position ..

i love the 9r for touring too .. put 400 miles last saturday all in rain and thunderstorms all day and waited out a tornado .. i felt so confident riding the 9r in the rain .. also this is the first bike where the stock fairing is PERFECT for me with no buffeting .. gotta love that 48-50 mpg when u baby it on local highways ..
 

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careyowl ..

u can email me ur pics and i can post em on here .. :D ill pm u my email ...

looking forward for the pics and ride review with the speiglers ..
 

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For anyone else having trouble posting pics, there's a 'Sticky' thread in the general section on how to post pics.

Basically you can have a pic on your hard drive, but you have to upload it to this zx-12r site first under 'Bike Gallery' above. Then link to it from there as described in the 'how to post pictures' thread.
 

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here are carey owl's pics..



finished..





leftsidetankclearance





Rightsidetankclearance




Rightsideaftertrim




Rightsideinterference

 

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Due to a tempory medical condition, I'm not allowed to drive/ride until I'm cleard by the doc. :cry: I have no other restrictions. This afternoon, I snuck a short ride around the block with the Speigler bar set up. My initial impression is very good. The bars are much wider than the clip-ons. Definitely a lot more leverage to turn the bars. Sitting almost straight up, with a slight lean forward. I don't know about wind protection at higher speeds, but the top edge of the fairing seemed pretty far away.

Hopefully I'm cleared by October 18th and I can give a better evaluation, but I like what I experienced so far. I think this may be the key to my ZX9 sport tourer. :lol:
 
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