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post #16 of 21 Old 10-05-2001, 11:55 AM
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He has a point regarding the lack of tread. But,not quite sure what he is on about with respect to the counter thing?? is he referring to the crankshaft counter balance weight inside the engine to reduce vibration?

If the rear wheel is locking up as he says, then the chain will go tight and try to stop the engine from turning, usually this makes clunking noises of protest in the process. However, I don't think you will feel that through the brake pedal. Obviously if you hold the brake on then the engine will stop.

I'll try this myself tomorrow and get back to you.

Did you get anyone to watch you braking as I suggested?




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post #17 of 21 Old 10-06-2001, 01:43 AM
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He may succeed in getting me to buy new tires, which is no big deal 'cause I was going to need some new ones anyway. But, I wont be buying them from him. I started a thread looking for suggestions on the best deal for Dunlops. I have not gotten much of a response yet, but in my own research it looks like Motorcycle Accessory Warehouse will sell me a front and rear set for $270, shipping included. They estimate 5-6days for shipping. When the tires get in I'll probably have them mounted at Cycles USA. We'll see if that fixes the problem. --Did you get my 2nd West Virginia email?


Your second idea seems closer to what's happening. I definitely felt the sensation through the pedal, and maybe a little bit in the ass, not that I like to feel things through MY ass. <img src= ALT=":eek"> <img src= ALT=""> "...not that there's anything wrong with that" -Seinfeld episode

I have not had the opportunity to have someone watch me brake. However, I did watch the service manager brake several times in the parking lot before he left for the test ride. He too locked it up on occasion. He did not report feeling a "clunk" immediately prior to the skid. He swears that it's the lack of traction, combined possibly with the road surface that initiates the whole problem. I'm interested to see what you find in you experiment.


I appreciate your suggestion as well. I have not had a chance to pick up the cleaner yet. I'll do that this weekend. I needed an excuse to buy stuff anyway.


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post #18 of 21 Old 10-06-2001, 10:35 AM
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I did give it a go today after a quick 300 mile rip around the countryside. Berkshire is covered in rubber lines now!

When the wheel locks up there is definately clunking and banging felt throught the bike but, I couldn't feel anything through my foot. (Gibzx12r, I might have been numb by then, but I couldn't feel it!! Ha! Ha! Kidding!!).

There is a definate series of shudders and bangs as the wheel is sliding and the engine is fighting to keep going.

With the clutch disengaged, the bike slid to a stop with no noises or clunking etc, just the sliding and squealing of the tyre.

So, have you tried this with the clutch lever pulled in? that takes the engine out of the equation, leaving only the braking system and the rear wheel + chain freewheeling.

My rear tyre is also well worn, interesting in the wet! Over to you again!




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post #19 of 21 Old 10-06-2001, 04:05 PM
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MDW...all i can say is, go over all the bolts and tighten them up!!! By the way the caliper holder that slides into the swingarm does have some play in it!!! That maybe the problem...Just make sure the axle nut is tight but not too tight, also the chain not too loose!!!

In reference to what the dealer said...Sometimes when you down shift you get rear wheel hop...It's really hard to diagnose the problem over the web site, know what I mean!!! Like I said just tighten all the bolts on the bike to proper torque than go for a ride...

If you cant find the reason and the clunking continues...Than get a pipe and remove the fiberglass...Problem Solved!!! <img src= ALT=":lol"> <img src= ALT=":lol"> <img src= ALT=":lol">


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post #20 of 21 Old 10-09-2001, 10:05 AM
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MDW, I got(read) your email today. Sounds like you had a full day. I've been meaning to out to Summit Point, this week they are holding a Road Race School on Friday I think like $130 and Saturday you get to race your bike all day for $35.


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post #21 of 21 Old 10-11-2001, 07:13 AM
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Sorry it has taken me so long to respond. Thanks for doing the experiment. Your test notes gave me an idea for a test of my own to do. I'll try to replicate those that you did as well. I might as well beat the hell out

of this tire as I'll be placing the order for the new ones tomorrow.


I plan on checkin' and tight-nen this weekend.


Thanks all for your suggestions.


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