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post #1 of 26 Old 05-14-2013, 12:19 PM Thread Starter
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Engine won't start!!!

Hi all, I have a very strange problem and hopefully someone have the answer.
My engine just won't start, I have checked everything I know of. I have spark and I have fuel, I have measured all my sensors and checked the cam chain position and its all ok. The engine fire on all cylinders, or at least get worm on the exhaust pipes, but it just won't start not even with start gas. It's just like the cam chain is a few tooth wrong or the timing is way off but I have checked it all.
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post #2 of 26 Old 05-14-2013, 12:30 PM
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Can you hear the fuel pump prime as you switch the bike on?
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Japp, it primes and pumps when I crank it. I even looked down the trumpets and checked the injectors, and there's a nice fog of fuel each stroke.
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My thoughts would be:
Check fuel pump is working
Check neutral light is on
Check plugs for any fouling not just spark
Battery charged enough to turn over but not enough to start
Unplug and plug back in tps
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If it is not turning over, try leaving the clutch lever out!
The clutch switch is renown for sticking in the wrong state and only allowing the engine to start when out rather than in.
If that's it, strip it, clean it and all will be well again.

If at first you don't succeed....take a longer run up!!
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Engine won't start!!!

Haven't tried with clutch out actually but the rest is all ok, new battery, new spark plugs and pump works and I have checked the fuel pressure. But sense I have spark and it fires and shoots nice fireballs out the exhaust, I just can't understand why it won't start.
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Haven't tried with clutch out actually but the rest is all ok, new battery, new spark plugs and pump works and I have checked the fuel pressure. But sense I have spark and it fires and shoots nice fireballs out the exhaust, I just can't understand why it won't start.
It's not the clutch switch then, that kills it totally.

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Is the FI light flashing or giving you any codes?
Have you disturbed the tilt sensor (on rear subframe, right side)?

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Engine won't start!!!

The Fl don't show anything but I think the tilt sensor have bin on because I bought a crashed bike and have changed and fixed everything that was bad, even the hole electrical wiring is new except for the battery box and all in it.
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I just thought tilt sensor too, possibly and air flow problem? Either that or an electrical fault not allowing enough power to get start up rpm?
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Haven't tried with clutch out actually but the rest is all ok, new battery, new spark plugs and pump works and I have checked the fuel pressure. But sense I have spark and it fires and shoots nice fireballs out the exhaust, I just can't understand why it won't start.
Whoooaaaaa now. It's shooting fireballs out the exhaust?
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Timing.

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How long since the bike last ran? Have you done anything to it since then? How was it running?
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Engine won't start!!!

Well I exaggerated a bit about the fireballs, it's more like a little puff. And the timing was my first guess to but sense the timing can't be changed that leaves the cams, but they line up perfect against the crankshaft.
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Lets try this again...

1) has it run before?
2) if it has run before, what did you change?
3) if you changed something, did you mess that thing up?
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