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Gauge cluster light change

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Thanks for this. Do you have an after picture of the cluster in the dark?

Thanks

EDIT: 5 bulbs ordered.

I saw comments from an old post that the main LED screen of the cluster wasn't bright enough, without the filter removed, and too bright with it removed. Any truth to this? During night riding?

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I think I saw your pictures in another thread, might be real helpful to others to add it to your first post here. Would you mind posting the Before and After in their full size?

Thank you for all this information, it is great to see a bike that hasn't been made in 13 years still gets good write-up/videos.

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I actually have no problem with the brightness of the LCD after removing the filter. It's kind of perfect actually. Thanks for viewing!
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I actually have no problem with the brightness of the LCD after removing the filter. It's kind of perfect actually. Thanks for viewing!
Thanks. What happened to the RPM redline area? It looks very dull.

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I actually have no problem with the brightness of the LCD after removing the filter. It's kind of perfect actually. Thanks for viewing!
Thanks. What happened to the RPM redline area? It looks very dull.
I noticed that as well. If I were to take a semi educated guess I would say that it has to do with the wavelength of green light and the way that it hits the red area. It really wasn't a huge concern to me because I will probably never take it up that high. Admittedly it affects the way that it looks a little bit but not enough that I would change it back to the original white lights.
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I noticed that as well. If I were to take a semi educated guess I would say that it has to do with the wavelength of green light and the way that it hits the red area. It really wasn't a huge concern to me because I will probably never take it up that high. Admittedly it affects the way that it looks a little bit but not enough that I would change it back to the original white lights.
I wonder if it is because of the way the LEDs are more directional than the halogen bulbs?

I ordered the cool white bulbs, I am hoping to not have that same issue.

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I completed the install, took all of 15 minutes. Thanks for the video, it was very helpful.

I did reinstall the bottom nut and washer, the cluster felt too wablly without it. If you lift up from the bottom it rotates significantly.

Here is my after, using the 6K white neo wedge led T3s (sku T3_SMT_W from the site you posted). They had very fast shipping, I got the bulbs last night (ordered the day you posted this).

I removed the orange filter behind the LCD screen.

Please ignore my E.T. Finger, the oil light was way too bright for the cell phone pic:


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You might find with using LEDs that they will only light with the correct polarity. If you rotate it 180 degrees it'll light.

Mine was documented Here

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You might find with using LEDs that they will only light with the correct polarity. If you rotate it 180 degrees it'll light.

Mine was documented Here
Yup. I was standing over my bike with the cluster in hand, plugging it in, unplugging, rotating off bulbs, then replugging it in for testing.

Then I put everything back together and tested one last time before remounting back to the bike.

I think, even if I wasn't doing LEDs, it would be worth it to take it apart to remove the orange filter from under the LCD screen. Looks WAY better without it.

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I noticed that as well. If I were to take a semi educated guess I would say that it has to do with the wavelength of green light and the way that it hits the red area. It really wasn't a huge concern to me because I will probably never take it up that high. Admittedly it affects the way that it looks a little bit but not enough that I would change it back to the original white lights.
After installing mine and seeing my after product, I have a feeling that one of your bulbs is either installed wrong, or the contacts aren't making a solid connection in the bulb below. I could be wrong...

I put a red arrow on the one in question.


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Jay, I'm glad to hear that my video was helpful to you. Your cluster looks fantastic. As for my cluster with the diminishing read RPM numbers, I did double check and the light that you highlighted is in fact working. Remember earlier when I mentioned and it might have something to do with the wavelengths of Lights? Well it turns out I was right. White light is made up of all colors. When something shows up as red to us it's because it is absorbing all light except for red which it is reflecting back to us. So if I Supply a green light to something that is known to be red, it will absorb the green light and reflect nothing back to us. It gives us the illusion that the red numbers are now black or extremely dimly-lit. Hooray for science!
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Hi, just read your post on cluster light replace. What is the web site to order the bulbs from? Thanks.

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Hi, just read your post on cluster light replace. What is the web site to order the bulbs from? Thanks.

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