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Old 09-24-2001, 03:32 AM
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Well, I am both pissed off at Dynojet and at myself! Dynojet for not listing in the instructions how to set/zero the throttle position, and at meself for "ASSUME"ing that if the throttle came up as "0" and "100" percent that all would be ok!

Well, guess what???

For all those owners of Power Commanders, the absolute first thing one should do before firing the bike after installing the PCIIIR is set the throttle position. Turn on the key with the serial cable pluged in, go to the utilites drop box and click on Set Throttle Postion.
With the throttle closed at what would be 1000 rpm hot idle, click the appropriate button, open the throttle against the stop and click the other button, then finish the procedure by clicking the OK button.

IF this does anything, it takes care of the idle and off idle issues!!! Bike idles like it had the stock pipe on it. Also I see the bike is fueling differently at 0,2,5% throttle as seen by the A/F ratio monitor. Damn, I am pissed.
On a better note, bike pulled SAE 172.0 hp, or STD 176.0 hp and 98.9 ft torque other day. Now will have to re-test!!!

So, if Dynojet is LISTENING, I like your product, But you instructions are lacking the most important info and I cannot imagine that it doesn't have its own page in GREAT BIG BOLD LETTERS - Before you start bike, set throttle position - and this is how you do it!!!
This is just to important.

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Old 09-24-2001, 08:01 AM
 
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Thanks for that info these are the simple things that trip people up sometimes and if i get round to getting one ill keep this in mind.

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Good info. I'll print this out and add it to my bike's folder.

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Old 09-24-2001, 10:53 AM
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The instructions also say to make sure your fast idle lever is off (ie what we used to call a choke lever).

The first thing I did was calibrate my throttle position. But I read about this on my site. I don't remember seeing any warnings about this, but it was in the instructions.

Frank: wait until you get kids and have to setup up all those plastic toys and vehicles and stuff, then you will learn to read the instructions before attempting anything. LOL

Should I take your map down if the readings are invalid??

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Old 09-25-2001, 03:44 AM
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that your 3r came with complete instructions, but you see, MINE DID NOT!!!

The biggest change has been the idle and just off idle quality. The rest seems to be okay at this time


Later................................../

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Presently with the laptop that I am trying to get to work I am having major problems with communications. However I borrowed a laptop from work and I still get intermittant comm, but when I did get comm last night I found that my throttle position calibration was no longer the same. Somehow it was changed, the bike was running a bit differently and this explains it. It may be possible that with intermittant communication the PCIIIr gets fooled into doing things that are incorrect. I am still trying to get my communication stable, I can never get it to comm when the bike is not running, I have to have the bike running and charging before it will communicate.
I got off topic a bit, but the point I am making is that it wouldn't hurt to check your throttle position calibration everytime you put a new map in.
The next question I also have is: by adjusting your idle speed, will this effect your 0 position throttle calibration, I would say that it would. Any comments?

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Old 09-25-2001, 09:45 PM
 
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Adjusting your idle speed will TECHNICALLY adjust your tp settings. However, if you think about it all you are doing is moving the throttle bodies a little bit. Essentially you are cracking the throttle just a bit by turning the idle up. IF your Power Commander is adjusted properly then adjusting the idle up will not affect the performance of your bike as the Power Commander will still be adjusted for that throttle position just the same as if you cracked the throttle just a bit. There is one problem with idle adjustments.

If one person has a custom map built and his tp is out of adjustment then his map will NOT act properly on other bikes.

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