[Vincent Hill]

I have a question! "Which" Hindle do you have?? There "IS" a 6 to 8 HP difference between them!

 

[void4114]

In all honesty I couldn't truly tell you as it cane on the bike and I'm still finding stuff on it since I bought it that the previous owner didnt tell me..nothing bad but, just don't know what parts were used

 

[void4114]

My hindle is carbon fiber if that matters

 

[void4114]

Since you had me wondering I called the guy.. It is the generation 3 full hindle exhaust with carbon canister

 

[maxumis]

there is a GEN 2 or GEN 3 in the hindle

 

[void4114]

When I called the guy he said it was the newest one out for the beginning of the riding season of this year.. So I'm assuming it's a gen 3.. He also added if I want the stick stuff I can go pick it up

 

[Vincent Hill]

When I called the guy he said it was the newest one out for the beginning of the riding season of this year.. So I'm assuming it's a gen 3.. He also added if I want the stick stuff I can go pick it up

Very Easy way to tell if you have the STD or Step Tube. Go to your bike and get down and "Look" at the Header pipe! You "Should" be able to see what I am looking for through the Side Vent.

After the Header curves down from the Head tell me if there is welding around the Pipe. One set has NO welding and the Other set all 4 pipes are welded with the 2 in the middle welded in the same area and the 2 on the Outside are welded in the same area.

Get back to me ASAP

 

[void4114]

ill check when i go home tonight..

 

[Vincent Hill]

ill check when i go home tonight..

If you noticed, I did not tell you which is which, but I will say one thing that "Most"! People that get the Step Tube (Because of the extra power & Heat it produces) usually do not get the CF Muffler!

 

[void4114]

im learning something new everyday.. ill take pics when i get home

 

[Vincent Hill]

Notice all of the welding? Can you see that the diameter about 1 inch above the welds is Smaller than after the welds? That is because there is a "Step Up" in the diameter of the pipe, Hence Step Tube

Since this is a Prototype on my ZRX, a ZX12R will look a little differently and not spread out around BOTH Sides of the Sump.

 

[void4114]

I gues mine is stepped tube.. This picture was taken from right side thru fairings

 

[timebomb33]

i have the same header on mine but it has a stainless can and my god your right about the heat it builds up, amazing that it hasn't melted yet.

 

[void4114]

So am I better off with the carbon since the stepped tubes get so hot or am I gonna fuck some shit up..

Would it be better if I shorten the can like I'm planning to desolate some heat

 

[Vincent Hill]

So am I better off with the carbon since the stepped tubes get so hot or am I gonna fuck some shit up..

Would it be better if I shorten the can like I'm planning to desolate some heat

Yes, You have the Step tube Hindle and I have some SERIOUS Maps for a 2000 & 2001 ZX12R.

Second, the Hindle Muffler is a full Float Design and it is difficult to Match the Baffle and Can. Second, Since the problem is the "Heat" and it is at the "Beginning" of the Muffler how can making it Shorter reduce the heat before it enters the Muffler?

Last, your Stainless or Ti Muffler may get hot but that is not a problem. That is also why they use 2.25 core mufflers are used on the Step tube exhaust.

 

[void4114]

Soooooooooo.. serious maps for a 2000???

 

[void4114]

With the shortening question I was thinking along the lines less length would also be less heat and it being shorter would be able to desolate the heat quicker since being shorter an carbon

 

[Vincent Hill]

With the shortening question I was thinking along the lines less length would also be less heat and it being shorter would be able to desolate the heat quicker since being shorter an carbon

I understood the thinking. It may reduce the amount of heat trapped inside the Muffler, but the problem is that EGT as it leaves the exhaust port is about 1200 degrees and as it tries to cool the step tube increases the amount of space to keep the speed UP (Retaining the heat as much as possible) Which is why this pipe runs Hotter.

 

[Vincent Hill]

BTW, with my mapping and same pipe stock engine and Short Bear Racing Velocity Stacks, I made between 180 & 183 sae HP and just a little over 100 in Torque!

 

[void4114]

BTW, with my mapping and same pipe stock engine and Short Bear Racing Velocity Stacks, I made between 180 & 183 sae HP and just a little over 100 in Torque!

That's what I'm talking about.. With these stacks is the bike still streetable.. I understood your explanation on how the stacks work in the other thread