[238mph]

Nope, but they were ugly like the 14 too... :roll:

 

[tslewisz]

Well, I remember it. You really didn't like them? I thought they were gorgeous in their day. Great bikes, too. I had a '97 D-model. Traded it for my 12.

 

[238mph]

To me, a bike needs to look and handle like a race bike... so anything that
morphs over to a cruiser (like a GoldWing) just doesn't get me excited.

The ZX11 and the ZX14 are both like that... soft, flowy, curvy, bulky,
bulbous, fat, thick, rounded, sorta like a big toad. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I like a sportbike with sharper lines sorta like the R-1.

did you notice that the nose of the 14 and the GoldWing are almost
identical??? :shock: :shock: :shock: WTF???? It is rounded and
sorta hangs down like a guy witha hooked nose....

 

[tslewisz]

:lol: No, I don't think the 14 looks like a Wing. I think the R1 is one of the most gorgeous bikes ever. But, I don't think 14's were supposed to be pretty (no need to bother agreeing). I think they were supposed to be like nothing else.

Besides, as I'm sure you know, rounded, "bulbous" shapes are much more aerodynamic at sub-sonic speeds.

 

[green machine]

hey guys it would be the shit if kawi came out with a 14R or maybe even real 1400cc zx-14r, with what we all love the 12 from looks and agilaty; just like they did with the 600r and the 600rr keep hope alive you never know they have been working on alot of shit "06 zx10r"

 

[Aughtsix]

I find it hard to believe that anyone would see the ZX-14 as more attractive than a Busa, but these things are highly subjective...

In my opinion, of the three bikes, the aesthetics hierarchy is:

#1 Sleek and sexy looking ZX-12r
#2 Long and flowing looking Busa
#3 Confused and dated looking ZX-14

Not being a fanboy, I'd much prefer a Busa over a 14 (you're right Jere, a 13.5...).

 

[Aughtsix]

Do you remember the displacement of the ZX-11?

The answer is...


1052cc.

But then, the CBR1100XX is 1137cc.

 

[SITW]

:lol: No, I don't think the 14 looks like a Wing. I think the R1 is one of the most gorgeous bikes ever. But, I don't think 14's were supposed to be pretty (no need to bother agreeing). I think they were supposed to be like nothing else.

Besides, as I'm sure you know, rounded, "bulbous" shapes are much more aerodynamic at sub-sonic speeds.

Pretty or not, tsewisz is correct. If you don't separate the air enough in front and it comes back together in the back too soon, it creates drag. That could be the reason for the very large front, or it is just what Kawi tried as a styling thing. Either way, I believe it has already set a top speed record? And the areos work. Damn thing is smooth and stable as hell at any speed.

zx12mark is correct, KHI's Consumer Products and Machinery division (motorcycle division) is the smallest of the big 4 Japanese bike companies. At least it was in 2004, the most recent year I collected data on for my research project.

 

[ddonacaZX12]

The only way I felt let down was by the NONEXISTENT customer service.

(phone to kawi national c.s. ringing)

Hello

Yeah, how's your day going?

Good, how can I help you sir?

Well, I just bought a new zx12, and I'm hoping you could put me in touch with someone, who can give me initial setup for suspension settings with a 205lb rider.

Well sir we have suspension settings in the tech manual.

Oh yes, I saw those, but it says they are for a 150lb rider. How much extra preload do I need to dial in, for the extra 50 lbs?

Well sir all we can give you is whats in the manuall.

(pause) Ummm, Okkk. You mean you guys run a world class roadracing program, and nobody knows how to set up a suspension system?

All I can give you is whats in the manual.

(sigh) Is there anyone who works there, who races on the weekends? Maybe a guy who helps out at track days or something?

Im sorry sir all I can give you is whats in the manual.

So I just spend 10 grand on a new bike and there is noone in the whole customer service department, who can help me set it up, so that it's rideable???? I mean dont they give you a chart or something.... Are you sure there isnt maybe, a more senior customer service tech available?

Im sorry sir all I can give you -

YES, YES , I know, whats in the FUCKING TECH MANUAL.... Well sonny' I hope the money ya made off me was worth it, cuz it will be the last bike I ever buy from your company.

(phone slams down)


and it will be.
Dave-

 

[Spoiler]

It wouldnt surprise me if you didnt get the same deal no matter which company you called.

 

[Aughtsix]

+1 on Spoiler...

Dave - Really, what did you expect??

A bike is a personal machine and, in my opinion anyway, the factories expect you to set it up for your own style and weight. Otherwise, why in the world do most of them use spaghetti noodles for front springs? Unless you moonlight as a professional jockey I don't know anyone who wouldn't be better served by swapping out springs for at least 1kgs or better.

And let's not even talk about the stock rear spring/shock...

But don't sweat - when (if) you go to EDR I'm sure they can get you set up.

 

[park12r]

THE 2006 ZZR1400/ZX14 ARE HERE TO REPLACE THE ZZR1200.JUST LIKE THE ZX12R,IT WASNT REALLY MEANT TO REPLACE THE ZZR1100/ZX11 ..THE ZZR1200 WAS BORN IN 2002 TO REPLACE THE 1100S.

ZZR-1100,1200,1400.zzr/zx without R
zzr1100- 1052cc (1990-2001) 12years(90-93Cmodels:94-01Dmodels)
zzr1200- 1164cc (2002-2005) 4years(Cmodels)
zzr1400- 1352cc (2006-20??)
1)semi flush mount frt/rear signal lights
2)pillion bar
3)dual exhaust
4)single banana seat

zzr1100-zzr1200-zzr1400 these 3 just kinda looks the same.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
the zx12r
2000-2006-1199cc (00-01Amodel : 02-06Bmodel)

 

[park12r]

history of the zx12r
2000-2006-[1199cc] (7years)(00-01Amodel : 02-06Bmodel)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

HISTORY OF THE ZZR1400
zzr/zx without R
zzr1100- 1052cc (1990-2001) 12years(90-93Cmodels:94-01Dmodels)
zzr1200- 1164cc (2002-2005) 4years(Cmodels)
zzr1400- 1352cc (2006-20??)

 

[ddonacaZX12]

It wouldnt surprise me if you didnt get the same deal no matter which company you called.

Well, when I had my other bike (*cough*gixer*cough*) the rep I called was quite helpfull actually. I may have just gotten very lucky though, Im not sure.

DD
:?

 

[jimb]

Well, when I had my other bike (*cough*gixer*cough*) the rep I called was quite helpfull actually. I may have just gotten very lucky though, Im not sure.

DD
:?

Yes, have to agree with you on Kawasaki's shortcomings in customer service. I went round and round with the corporate office on accessories and that was only cause the dealership jerked me around with lies on how they couldn't get me a certain jacket. Meanwhile Zuki shops are loaded with with nice accessories. I finally just gave up but make no mistake Kawasaki is below the standard on corp. care.

 

[park12r]

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