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03ZX12RJeff said:
Aughtsix said:
Damn, next to the 12r the 14 looks like it should have "Greyhound" on the side...
That would be "in front of" not "next to". Right where you would expect to see it. :D
That's pretty funny...

I bet most guys who regularly race a 12 aren't too worried about the 14...

Hell, a 1270 will smoke a worked Busa, and a 14....

I laugh in your general direction! :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
shane661 said:
03ZX12RJeff said:
Aughtsix said:
Damn, next to the 12r the 14 looks like it should have "Greyhound" on the side...
That would be "in front of" not "next to". Right where you would expect to see it. :D
That's pretty funny...

I bet most guys who regularly race a 12 aren't too worried about the 14...

Hell, a 1270 will smoke a worked Busa, and a 14....

I laugh in your general direction! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Ok it must be true if you say so.
 
For everyone that has a 14, I don't think there is any reason to say the ZZR1400 is not a good bike. I think it is great for what it is, a ZZR upgrade. It is not a 12R upgrade or it would be called a 14R.

It is a different bike with different purposes. I doesn't surprise me that not all 12R riders are excited about the ZZR1400. If people were into the ZZR1200 then the 14 would definitely be an exciting upgrade, however for the people that looked at the 12R as an upgraded 9R then obviously the ZZR1400 just isn't in the same category.

The 14 is the next generation of the ZZR, for many that is great, the fact that they discontinued the 12R doesn't necessarily mean the ZZR1400 is the replacement, they discontinued the 12R because of poor sales. The ZZR1400 may have come out as the ZZR1200 upgrade regardless of whether the 12R was dropped.

Unforunately bikes like the 12R intimidate a lot of people which leads to less sales. That doesn't mean it wasn't an awesome bike, it just wasn't paying the bills for Kawasaki. However the Busa seems to be paying the bills for Suzuki, which means the money and riders are out there. Kawasaki just needs to do a better job of marketing next time. Which means paying off all the scumbag N.A. magazines that only give valid reviews and write ups if you advertise with them.
 
I post here to share my enthusiasm about the new 14. If you dont like them (and your entitled to your opinion) why do you guy's even bother to post in here? If you want to talk about how great your 12's are there is a forum for that. With all the negative comment's Im starting to feel like I bought a Busa. I had always thought this was the best M/C forum and wanted to be part of it. But I guess it's time for me to move on and not bore you with my 14 anymore...and Im not letting the door-

Later, enjoy your bike's and good luck.
 
Yikes. I hope that wasn't from my comment.

What I just posted was not to rag on the 14 but to just say it is a different style of bike intended for a slightly different purpose.
It is great that you bought a 14, it isn't a bike for me at this point, but it definitely has some very good points to it.
If I was a drag racer or wanted a bit more of a touring slant the 14 would be a great choice. It is all up to preferences and personal choice.
The point I was trying to make is that the ZZR1400 is not necessarily a replacement for the 12R, it is for a slightly different purpose which is fine.
 
easyrider said:
Yikes. I hope that wasn't from my comment.

What I just posted was not to rag on the 14 but to just say it is a different style of bike intended for a slightly different purpose.
It is great that you bought a 14, it isn't a bike for me at this point, but it definitely has some very good points to it.
If I was a drag racer or wanted a bit more of a touring slant the 14 would be a great choice. It is all up to preferences and personal choice.
The point I was trying to make is that the ZZR1400 is not necessarily a replacement for the 12R, it is for a slightly different purpose which is fine.
Easy
I doubt it was because of your last post. You have jumped on the pile just a little with some of the jokes etc. but we know you aren't as narrow minded as some posting here, and nothing wrong with a little ribbing now and then. But I do have to agree with Jeff somewhat, go back and read some of the posts. What if a Busa, or even a 14 rider made the same post as the opening one in this thread about the 12R in the 12R forum? Then there are those that just hang out here, lurking, to make negative comments on a bike they have never ridden. Joking is OK, but hanging out just to comment on a post to slam on something you know nothing about, not talking about you Easy, is really childish, ignorant, and uninformed. This site is better than that.
 
The way I really feel about it I am happy that Kawasaki has come out with the undisputed baddest ass bike. Hell who knows I may eat my words and buy one just not right now. I support the effort 100%
 
I think people are just dissapointed that Kawasaki dropped the ZX-12R. Unfortunately the ZZR1400 was launched the same year the 12R was dropped. I think people are taking out their frustration for no longer having a 12R on the 14. The bikes are for different purposes, confusing the 14 for a 12R replacement is not appropriate.

I think we need to judge the 14 on what it replaced which was the ZZR1200. For a replacement of the ZZR1200 it is an awesome upgrade which anyone who liked the ZZR1200 should be extremely happy about.

I just hope that Kawasaki decides to do something on par to the 12R someday.
 
Lest the thread title become forgotten, the thread is about styling - aesthetics -- something we ALL know something about.

All that is necessary to form a meaningful opinion about the styling of the ZX-14 as compared to the ZX-12r is to have seen them both.

The mindset that suggests you have to own something to appreciate, or not appreciate, its aesthetics has run off the road of reason and is helplessly bogged down in the field of nonsense.

In fact, one could say that ownership of an object makes one less able to objectively assess its attractiveness...
 
Yep, and Kawasaki only improved upon this design/scheme for '05 when the majestic, FASTEST Metallic Spark Black was unleashed upon an unsuspecting public.
:wink: :D :D :D

:wink: I couldn't have said it better!!
 
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i for one am not disappointed they stopped making the 12r. when i heard the 14 was coming i knew the 12 was bye-bye. kawasaki is a small bike co. they keep a streamlined line up.the 14 will take care of the speed wars but it`s not a good looking bike.the 12r on the other hand looks fucking great.
 
One big reason not to do the 14

Well, it's simple.

It isn't a 14... not even close.

Usually a manufacturer makes the motro within 2-4 cc of it's stated size.

Like a 1000 might be 998cc.

But Kawi call it a 14 and it's 1352. That's like a 13 and 1/2 :lol: :lol: :lol:

That to me is simply false advertising... as in a big lie.... and I hate being
lied to...

Technically, Kawi should have called it a 13... cause it's no where near a
14... :twisted:
 
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